Pledge Pin/Formal Attire requirement?

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

That's the idea and generally pledges already know that. Occasionally you'll get a kid from way out in the sticks that was never exposed to the idea that you shouldn't wear them though. Every once in a while there will be a top-class kid from the middle of nowhere who knows how to dress, for instance, when his dad takes him into town to go to the country club, but everyone he's regularly around in his hicktown had jorts/cargos as every day wear. You make that rule and he quickly learns that in actual society you look like a fool in them.

A small, minor point of order if I may.
From my POV/experience there are cargos and there are cargos.
Yes, I think the baggy, ill fitting, low riding type are not to be worn.
However there are, and I have some, ones that are rather tailored and
look rather sharp.

[33girl]

Re a collared shirt, does a polo shirt count or does it have to be a button-down/Oxford shirt?

Polos can look as sloppy as t shirts if you do them wrong, LOL.

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Re a collared shirt, does a polo shirt count or does it have to be a button-down/Oxford shirt?

Polos can look as sloppy as t shirts if you do them wrong, LOL.

For us it was only button-down.

[CrackerBarrel]

Ok, to cover two fronts.

Polos are acceptable, but if it doesn't look presentable we can send you home to change clothes. Basically what that means is to wear a non-faded polo with a traditional collar (not a floppy one) tucked in fully. We don't make pledges wear certain brands, but there are some that they are usually going to get sent home to change for wearing (AE, Hollister, Abercrombie, etc.) because they generally have a "distressed" look or whatever which takes away the whole point of dressing nice.

And for cargos, the closest I'll come to wearing cargos are some fishing shorts which tend to be fairly short in length, cut more snug than most shorts, but have flat pockets on the side. I don't have a problem with people wearing those (I think most any other cargos look bad though), but pledges have to stick to either normal shorts or long pants. It looks silly to wear fishing shorts with a collar is the main reason.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

Ok, to cover two fronts.

Polos are acceptable, but if it doesn't look presentable we can send you home to change clothes. Basically what that means is to wear a non-faded polo with a traditional collar (not a floppy one) tucked in fully. We don't make pledges wear certain brands, but there are some that they are usually going to get sent home to change for wearing (AE, Hollister, Abercrombie, etc.) because they generally have a "distressed" look or whatever which takes away the whole point of dressing nice.

And for cargoes, the closest I'll come to wearing cargoes are some fishing shorts which tend to be fairly short in length, cut more snug than most shorts, but have flat pockets on the side. I don't have a problem with people wearing those (I think most any other cargoes look bad though), but pledges have to stick to either normal shorts or long pants. It looks silly to wear fishing shorts with a collar is the main reason.

Understood and agree.
Perhaps I should have said long legged/pant cargoes. I was not referring to shorts nor did I understand that you were.

[CrackerBarrel]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Understood and agree.
Perhaps I should have said long legged cargoes. I was not referring to shorts nor did I understand that you were.

We always said that the rule for any cargo pockets, on shorts or pants, was that unless you were doing something where you would legitimately have "cargo" to carry in them (generally hunting or fishing) not to wear them. So I wouldn't wear them and our pledges can't, but if you want to more power to you.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

We always said that the rule for any cargo pockets, on shorts or pants, was that unless you were doing something where you would legitimately have "cargo" to carry in them (generally hunting or fishing) not to wear them. So I wouldn't wear them and our pledges can't, but if you want to more power to you.

Can you make that same rule for fat guys and turtlenecks? Please?

[wolffootball37]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Can you make that same rule for fat guys and turtlenecks? Please?

Or anyone with turtlenecks for that matter.

[Tom Earp]

Hm, I thought these were NM pins, not Active Badges?

[CrackerBarrel]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Hm, I thought these were NM pins, not Active Badges?

The logic is that our new members, by wearing our pin, are one of the most obvious reflections of our house on campus. We tell them that it's an honor to be pledging our house, so they should dress nicely to wear the pin and show that they're proud to have it.

I think I've heard that some houses nationally have the rule that the pledge pin can only be on a collared shirt as well, not sure which houses they were though.

[wolffootball37]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

The logic is that our new members, by wearing our pin, are one of the most obvious reflections of our house on campus. We tell them that it's an honor to be pledging our house, so they should dress nicely to wear the pin and show that they're proud to have it.

I think I've heard that some houses nationally have the rule that the pledge pin can only be on a collared shirt as well, not sure which houses they were though.

I have a question about the pledging process. During pledgeship will there be meetings on what to wear for what events and things of that nature? Im just wondering because im really lost on that aspect, especially for mixers and formals and those things.

[CrackerBarrel]

Originally Posted by wolffootball37

I have a question about the pledging process. During pledgeship will there be meetings on what to wear for what events and things of that nature? Im just wondering because im really lost on that aspect, especially for mixers and formals and those things.

Usually your pledge-packet (prepared by your pledge trainer, not to be confused with the national book) will tell you what your everyday wear should be. For mixers/socials unless you hear differently you can usually dress for the theme rather than following dress code (ask first though, don't assume my house is the same as yours). And for formals/semi-formals, ask a brother who has been to that event before just how formal it is supposed to be/what he would wear.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

Usually your pledge-packet (prepared by your pledge trainer, not to be confused with the national book) will tell you what your everyday wear should be. For mixers/socials unless you hear differently you can usually dress for the theme rather than following dress code (ask first though, don't assume my house is the same as yours). And for formals/semi-formals, ask a brother who has been to that event before just how formal it is supposed to be/what he would wear.

Excellent and on point advice for any pledge.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

I think we have that national rule. We have a chapter rule that pledges must be wearing their pledge pins at all times during the day- so, by default, they have to wear a collared/oxford and khakis.

And a big cosign on that first paragraph.

I don't believe this is the case, I'll definitely look into that though. If it is, I believe it is a predominately ignored rule, I know several chapters that wear pledge pins with T-shirts.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

We always said that the rule for any cargo pockets, on shorts or pants, was that unless you were doing something where you would legitimately have "cargo" to carry in them (generally hunting or fishing) not to wear them. So I wouldn't wear them and our pledges can't, but if you want to more power to you.

Thank you-I will.
And just as we were not on the same page before, I think we are not again.
The type/kind I wear are tailored. Among other features are rather neat, flat pockets.
However I do have a better understanding of your dress codes now.