Pledge Pin/Formal Attire requirement?

[CrackerBarrel]

Originally Posted by nate2512

Jorts and cargos shouldn't be worn period.

That's the idea and generally pledges already know that. Occasionally you'll get a kid from way out in the sticks that was never exposed to the idea that you shouldn't wear them though. Every once in a while there will be a top-class kid from the middle of nowhere who knows how to dress, for instance, when his dad takes him into town to go to the country club, but everyone he's regularly around in his hicktown had jorts/cargos as every day wear. You make that rule and he quickly learns that in actual society you look like a fool in them.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

That's the idea and generally pledges already know that. Occasionally you'll get a kid from way out in the sticks that was never exposed to the idea that you shouldn't wear them though. Every once in a while there will be a top-class kid from the middle of nowhere who knows how to dress, for instance, when his dad takes him into town to go to the country club, but everyone he's regularly around in his hicktown had jorts/cargos as every day wear. You make that rule and he quickly learns that in actual society you look like a fool in them.

This is true.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

That's the idea and generally pledges already know that. Occasionally you'll get a kid from way out in the sticks that was never exposed to the idea that you shouldn't wear them though. Every once in a while there will be a top-class kid from the middle of nowhere who knows how to dress, for instance, when his dad takes him into town to go to the country club, but everyone he's regularly around in his hicktown had jorts/cargos as every day wear. You make that rule and he quickly learns that in actual society you look like a fool in them.

A small, minor point of order if I may.
From my POV/experience there are cargos and there are cargos.
Yes, I think the baggy, ill fitting, low riding type are not to be worn.
However there are, and I have some, ones that are rather tailored and
look rather sharp.

[33girl]

Re a collared shirt, does a polo shirt count or does it have to be a button-down/Oxford shirt?

Polos can look as sloppy as t shirts if you do them wrong, LOL.

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Re a collared shirt, does a polo shirt count or does it have to be a button-down/Oxford shirt?

Polos can look as sloppy as t shirts if you do them wrong, LOL.

For us it was only button-down.

[CrackerBarrel]

Ok, to cover two fronts.

Polos are acceptable, but if it doesn't look presentable we can send you home to change clothes. Basically what that means is to wear a non-faded polo with a traditional collar (not a floppy one) tucked in fully. We don't make pledges wear certain brands, but there are some that they are usually going to get sent home to change for wearing (AE, Hollister, Abercrombie, etc.) because they generally have a "distressed" look or whatever which takes away the whole point of dressing nice.

And for cargos, the closest I'll come to wearing cargos are some fishing shorts which tend to be fairly short in length, cut more snug than most shorts, but have flat pockets on the side. I don't have a problem with people wearing those (I think most any other cargos look bad though), but pledges have to stick to either normal shorts or long pants. It looks silly to wear fishing shorts with a collar is the main reason.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by CrackerBarrel

Ok, to cover two fronts.

Polos are acceptable, but if it doesn't look presentable we can send you home to change clothes. Basically what that means is to wear a non-faded polo with a traditional collar (not a floppy one) tucked in fully. We don't make pledges wear certain brands, but there are some that they are usually going to get sent home to change for wearing (AE, Hollister, Abercrombie, etc.) because they generally have a "distressed" look or whatever which takes away the whole point of dressing nice.

And for cargoes, the closest I'll come to wearing cargoes are some fishing shorts which tend to be fairly short in length, cut more snug than most shorts, but have flat pockets on the side. I don't have a problem with people wearing those (I think most any other cargoes look bad though), but pledges have to stick to either normal shorts or long pants. It looks silly to wear fishing shorts with a collar is the main reason.

Understood and agree.
Perhaps I should have said long legged/pant cargoes. I was not referring to shorts nor did I understand that you were.

[CrackerBarrel]

Originally Posted by jon1856

Understood and agree.
Perhaps I should have said long legged cargoes. I was not referring to shorts nor did I understand that you were.

We always said that the rule for any cargo pockets, on shorts or pants, was that unless you were doing something where you would legitimately have "cargo" to carry in them (generally hunting or fishing) not to wear them. So I wouldn't wear them and our pledges can't, but if you want to more power to you.