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Old 08-30-2007, 10:15 AM
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Can we please not have this debate here? The original poster was not referring to NPHC organizations.
There is no debate here. I'm simply stating the truth for those that may not be aware. And I can refer to anything I wish.
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:17 AM
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If service was a primary purpose of NPHC groups, they would be service GLOs. They are not. Legally, they are general/social.

This in NO WAY negates the importance of service in these groups. But service is the primary purpose of APO, GSS, and OPA, not the NPHC, NIC, NHC, etc groups.
Actually, legally my org is classified as both social and service.
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There is no debate here. I'm simply stating the truth for those that may not be aware. And I can refer to anything I wish.

We have had this discussion time and time again and it gets OLD. You have not been here that long so you might not have known that.
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:18 AM
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Actually, legally my org is classified as both social and service.

So men can pledge your organization?
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:20 AM
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So tell us about ESA? What kinds of issues are you having on your campus, exactly? If you're trying to get more visibility, I'd go with doing service projects with other groups, getting involved in big campus initiatives, and always wearing your letters while you're doing those things. Personally, I think a nice chapter website is pretty good to have too.
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So men can pledge your organization?
I know what you're getting at but I have seen the actual documentation before under certain articles; two that I can't remember right now. I think one of them is article 501.
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:24 AM
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Still waiting to hear what, specifically, the OP is asking for help with.
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:28 AM
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This is true but I just want to point out that service IS a primary purpose for the NPHC orgs in addition to Scholarship and Sister/Brotherhood. I believe that all the NPHC orgs are officially classified as both social and service. And since some of the service organizations have chapters that participate in step shows and other "social" activities/traditions common the NPHC, they can be viewed as social also.
Yes, this is true. The difference is in the focus. With OPhiA, the Sorority exists for service, and our sisterhood comes from that. We cannot have our sisterhood without the service. With Delta, the Sorority is a sisterhood, and what we do is service. We cannot perform our service without the sisterhood. With both types of organizations, both service and sisterhood are extremely important, but that difference in focus makes one a service GLO and the other a social GLO.

No one is implying that by labeling some orgs one thing and others another than any of these labels are insults - they are, first and foremost, legal definitions for Title IX.
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:36 AM
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Yes, this is true. The difference is in the focus. With OPhiA, the Sorority exists for service, and our sisterhood comes from that. We cannot have our sisterhood without the service. With Delta, the Sorority is a sisterhood, and what we do is service. We cannot perform our service without the sisterhood. With both types of organizations, both service and sisterhood are extremely important, but that difference in focus makes one a service GLO and the other a social GLO.

No one is implying that by labeling some orgs one thing and others another than any of these labels are insults - they are, first and foremost, legal definitions for Title IX.
I love the way you explain things here...perfectly. But I know I have ran into far too many people who think Service is not a major priority for NPHC orgs; including those in other GLO's. This is undoubtedly due to the fact that many don't have any idea of our illustrious histories. So I was just making the point for those people.
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Old 08-30-2007, 10:52 AM
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I love the way you explain things here...perfectly.
Agreed - DSTRen, that was a GREAT post.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:11 AM
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My mom was in ESA when I was a kid. She went to nursing school, so she was not in a collegiate sorority, but she enjoyed ESA membership for many years in her 20's and 30's. In fact, there were a couple of different chapters in our small rural area and it was quite popular. I think at least one chapter is still going strong.

I was not aware there were collegiate chapters--I hope there is somebody here who has experience and some advice for you.
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Old 08-30-2007, 11:18 AM
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Still waiting to hear what, specifically, the OP is asking for help with.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:12 PM
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She wants to know ways to make her group more visible on campus and get people to know what they're about.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:15 PM
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I wanted to know if there are any members of service Greek groups around here? I'm a collegiate member of Epsilon Sigma Alpha and our chapter is trying to bring up our prescence on campus and I wanted to know if there are any similar organizations in our positions. I can imagine locals might have similar issues. Also, anyone in services groups have t-shirt ideas?
Set up a booth in the student center and "quad". Invite people to service projects. Hell, invite yourselves to other people's projects also. Have someone write an article about your organization and what you all do.
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Old 08-31-2007, 02:06 PM
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She wants to know ways to make her group more visible on campus and get people to know what they're about.
As I posted before, easy ways to make your name known is to literally blanket the campus with your letters. Wear them, post them.

The bigger picture (I am guessing here) is that the org is not very large, and therefore, increasing numbers (and perhaps retention levels) are the overlying issues. If this is the case, there are a lot of things you can try.

If there are no other GLOs on campus, your role can be one of educator on what your org is, compared to what people "think" they know of GLOs in general.

If you are among social, Divine 9, and/or prof GLOs, you can focus on how you are different, WHY people might want to be part of your sisterhood, and then SHOW them. In this case, you are the marketer. BRAND AWARENESS is most important in either scenario.

There are dozens of quick things you can do, but you need to formulate your goals (more members, more participation from the campus, more service projects), then devise a multi-step plan on how to get there. Without a plan, you can't succeed, bc you won't know specificially what you are seeking.

So again, let's see if the OP can ask some questions or list specific challenges, and we can brainstorm? I am here to help.
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