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Old 06-25-2007, 09:29 AM
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What kind of school would choose to stop recognizing an organization without calling their HQ?
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Old 06-25-2007, 09:54 AM
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What kind of school would choose to stop recognizing an organization without calling their HQ?
An assy one?
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:41 PM
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This is not unprecidented. UC-Boulder just went through a very interesting series of negotiations where the administration wanted to make the fraternities forgo rushing in the fall (i.e. stop doing fall rush for freshman). They cited the fact that this is successful at many colleges in improving freshman grades and a bunch of other stuff.

When they proposed that the Greek community sign the agreements, all the sororities signed it and all of the fraternities refused to sign it (IFC - I believe the NPHC groups signed it but don't hold me to that). As a result, the university pulled recognition of all the fraternities. Check out their Greek Life website - no fraternities. In this case, all of the national organizations and HQs decided to remain giving the chapters recognition on a national fraternity level despite lack of university recognition. This just happened this Spring and I bet you could find more info about it here.

I love this story! What benefits are there to being Recognized through the University there?

At the University I went to these are the University Defined benefits:

1. use of ASU facilities, equipment, and services, subject to university policies and procedures - Any student is granted this!
2. the right to self-governance, through the established policies and procedures of the governing councils and within the parameter of university policies
3. access to information about the academic achievement of chapter members, subject to university policy regarding authorized release of student information
4. verification of chapter members’ ASU enrollment, subject to university policy regarding authorized release of student information by the University.
5. inclusion in university and student publications
6. eligibility for awards and honors presented to ASU organizations and their members
7. permission to collect reasonable dues, sponsor fund-raising events, and solicit funds, subject to university policy
8. participation in designated athletic, cultural, social, and other group events, including programs sponsored by its councils
9. permission to sponsor programs and activities consistent with the broader aims of the university and with the purposes of their organization
10. the right to recruit and select members subject to university policies as provided for in section 86.14, Title IX, U.S. Education Act of 1972
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other privileges that may derive from membership in one or more of its councils.

Most of the above "benefits" are afforded anyway through any National Fraternity right? Whats the point in my opinion??

I have much respect for the UC Boulder fraternity community (IFC) if what was said is true..
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Old 06-25-2007, 03:59 PM
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As to your questions. Most National orgs will shut down chapters for several reasons, mostly being hazing and the like. How long until they allow a new chapter to be re-established may vary, but I think most will set an amount of time to ensure that all who were involved with the previous chapter are now gone.

Yes, sometimes Universities will shut down a chapter. Again, it will usually be for hazing and similiar unacceptable behavior. Some Universities may be harsher about letting a new chapter be formed.

It will depend on the organization whether a chapter can still 'exist' without their University's approval.

I can only add the following from my org:

We have shutdown chapters. Its usually for serious issues such as hazing where hazing is prevelent within the chapter (as opposed to it just being a couple of brothers doing it without the knowledge/approval of the chapter). In such cases, we do not allow a re-charter effort for 4-5 years.

We have had Universities kick our chapters off campus (this basically shuts them down). It has always been for serious issues of hazing. The only such cases I am aware of, it is a permanent ban. We are not allowed back. The only difference here is that had we known of the issue, we would have taken action, and would have allowed a re-charter to eventually occur.

As we charter chapters to Universities, if a chapter loses university approval, they automatically lose their charter and cease to be. Any continuing activity of the 'chapter' is now an underground effort, and totally unsanctioned by our national body. Any evidence of underground activity on a campus will set back any re-chartering efforts by several years. Those doing such activities are not helping things...

No, I will no provide examples.
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