Would you date a guy that was not in a fraternity?

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by soda

I asked the question "Would you date a guy that was not in a fraternity?"

Many of you girls seem pretty nice and not so superficial...and just want to date a guy who respects you etc...which I like.

But many of you said "Well it's easier to date a Greek b/c of the time commitment etc etc"

What time commitment? The fraternities at my school don't do much beyond partying and drinking (3rd biggest party school in the nation).

Time commitments (study hours, philanthropy, intramural sports, campus activities, meetings, etc.) vary chapter to chapter and campus to campus. It might be best if you ask the chapter directly what the time commitments are if you are interested in rushing that chapter. They should be able to give you details.

They claim it's oh so easy to get girls but it seems as though they are lying b/c I never see it.

If you feel they are lying, (which they might be), then perhaps it would be best for you to look elsewhere.

I know the sororities raise money and stuff but the fraternernities raise like 250 bucks if even that...

It seems as if Greek life is more than partying (sometimes 3 times a week at my school) and drinking yet the frats have not told me anything beyond this nor do they do much else...

If you are interested in a specific chapter, you should ask them what they do in addition to partying.

ive heard Greeks get good grades and do well in school etc... but all the Greeks I've talked to include GPA's of 0.7, 1.7, 1.2, and 2.3.

You are correct. Greeks do get good grades. However, those that do poorly can be put on academic suspension and/or made inactive. Or perhaps asked to leave the fraternity. The same applies with the university. Academic probation or expulsion from the school.

So...What's up?? Isn't Greek life supposed to be about partying, not remembering the last time you were sober (like 1 guy i talked to), and getting girls (or atleast lying about it).

Greek life is about a lot of things. I would guess that there are chapters on your campus that do not fit the stereotypes you have written about. As such, you might want to do more research on the chapters on your campus. And ask different people (Greeks and non Greeks) about the chapters and find one that best fits you. It may be that all the chapters aren't what you want. If that is the case, then you might want to check into other organizations on your campus.

Best of luck.

[KyleMcGuire1983]

again......what's the obsession with "frats" helping your game with picking up chicks?

so odd.

[Ilaria Ame]

i absolutely, hands down, would date someone who isn't greek. i am currently, actually but i can see where dating a fraternity member would probably be easier in some ways as opposed to non-greek soley because someone who is in another GLO would have a better idea of what's going on for events and such. my current bf was with me while i pleadged, and it was really hard for him to understand why i suddenly dissapeared without an entirely accurate explanation. and he's not terribly excited that i put my sisters before him 99.9% of the time. a fraternity member would understand something like that. but i wouldn't trade thomas for the world anyway, sooo...

[cuteASAbug]

I know plenty of sorority girls who would only date non-greek guys. It really depends on the caliber of what's out there at your school.

[ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl]

Originally Posted by soda

I asked the question "Would you date a guy that was not in a fraternity?"

Many of you girls seem pretty nice and not so superficial...and just want to date a guy who respects you etc...which I like.

I don't think being Greek has anything to do with it. Some girls will be self respecting and want to date a guy who will treat them right. They can find those both in the Greek system and outside of it. Some will just want attention. That can be found on both sides of the fence as well. Personally I find that dating a fraternity guy is easier, because he understands why I am decorating until four in the morning during recruitment, why I have to spend Sunday nights in chapter meetings, and why I "talk Greek" all the time. I wouldn't have any issue with dating a non-Greek. It's just convenient to date one.

Originally Posted by soda

But many of you said "Well it's easier to date a Greek b/c of the time commitment etc etc"

What time commitment? The fraternities at my school don't do much beyond partying and drinking (3rd biggest party school in the nation). They claim it's oh so easy to get girls but it seems as though they are lying b/c I never see it.

You might not see it, but for chapters to survive they will follow the guidelines of their nationals. This includes, for instance, having a certain chapter GPA and individual GPA, raising a certain amount of money, recruiting a certain amount of men. I think fraternities do party a lot more than sororities, but I guarantee you that is not all that they do. If you think they put no effort into recruitment, you're wrong. They also give up time every week for chapter meetings. I'd suggest taking the time to really research fraternities before you right them off like that. As for girls, there are some girls who will hook up with a fraternity guy because he is one. Like band groupies. But they are not the majority. This is part of their selling point, I assume. They say this to attract new members, I'm sure, and also probably to boost some fragile male egos.

Originally Posted by soda

I know the sororities raise money and stuff but the fraternernities raise like 250 bucks if even that...

I doubt that. I really do.

Originally Posted by soda

It seems as if Greek life is more than partying (sometimes 3 times a week at my school) and drinking yet the frats have not told me anything beyond this nor do they do much else...

Have you really bothered to research it? Use your brain here. If you attend a major party school, this means that students, not just greeks, but students in general party a lot. Greeks MUST recruit to keep chapters open. Therefore the farternities will sell what the students are buying. That's not all that they are about. But if that's the image they need to keep their doors open, they'll do it.

Originally Posted by soda

ive heard Greeks get good grades and do well in school etc... but all the Greeks I've talked to include GPA's of 0.7, 1.7, 1.2, and 2.3.

They do. ALL the Greeks you've talked to? Really? I'm not believing that, either. National and international organization headquarters require a certain chapter GPA and certain individual GPA. Members who can't meet that are usually put on probation and generally can be terminated if they cannot bring up their grades. This is the same for entire chapters. The chapters at your school would not exist of all Greeks made those grades.

Originally Posted by soda

So...What's up?? Isn't Greek life supposed to be about partying, not remembering the last time you were sober (like 1 guy i talked to), and getting girls (or atleast lying about it).

If you DO think Greek life is all about partying, again, I suggest you put more effort into research. I'll be glad to help you, and I'm sure there's some fraternity members who would do a much better job...sororities and fraternities are not exactly alike. Greek life is about brotherhood and sisterhood and living up to founders' ideals. It's true that not every Greek understands this...or even cares. But that is what it's REALLY about.

It's a matter of informed opinion, that's all. And, for the record, I personally never really feel apologetic about the image Greeks have...I wish they didn't, but until Greeks party more than "non-Greeks"...complaints aren't real valid. College students party, in general. Greek or not.

[KSUViolet06]

I've never heard a 20-something career woman fawning over her new boyfriend because he's an XYZ. Whether your significant other is in a fraternity ceases to matter after graduation.

[AlexMack]

I'm gonna call troll on this kid.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by soda

i don't really think i want to go greek b/c i have a lot friends and really good network and don't feel the need for one. i'm pretty confident that i can get girls w/o joining a frat and i honestly don't think frat guys get more girls than guys who aren't (correct me if im wrong).

unless it's a status thing for a girl like "oh i only date frat guys b/c bla bla" then i think i can get a sorority girl.

so once again my question is...

Would you date a guy who is not in a fraternity?

Nope

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Nope

Why not?

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Why not?

A ridiculous answer to a ridiculous question!

[rufio]

ah another day in greek life fighting the stereotype

[KyleMcGuire1983]

can we just kill this thread already?

[AOE2AlphaPhi]

I've never dated a boy in a fraternity. I probably wouldn't date you either though. Stop trying to upset people. You have to know (or be able to figure out) that in this kind of atmosphere, the people take Greek life very seriously, and that it is not only about partying to us, if that even has anything to do with our reasons for being Greek.

[Buttonz]

Originally Posted by PhenomenalZTA

, my obsession with strawberries

Totally of topic but my last bf, who isn't greek, was obsessed with strawberries...I told him he should date a ZTA and he just looked at me like I was crazy, lol.

As for me, I have no problems dating a non-Greek.

[adpiucf]

You tend to find dates and SO's among your social circle. If you're Greek, you're spending a lot of time with other Greeks at unviersity events, social mixers and philanthropy events. It makes sense that over the course of these activities, you might meet someone.

I think sorority women are more likely to date fraternity men b/c of these frequent assocations. But..... Someone who absolutely won't date a non-fraternity member probably does not have great maturity to begin with, so I doubt she's dating much if her criteria is so narrow.

And... a fraternity is a lot more than just parties and girls. If that's all you're interested in, I don't recommend you look into fraternity membership. I don't think you'll enjoy it much.