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Old 02-14-2007, 09:55 AM
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http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_5213016

This is the Gordie Bailey case out of Colorado. His mother is suing the fraternity. She is blaming Gordie's death on hazing.
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:17 PM
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[URL="http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_5213016"]His mother is suing the fraternity. She is blaming Gordie's death on hazing.
Perhaps as important is that she is also suing seven individual members of the chapter.
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Old 02-14-2007, 01:33 PM
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http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_5213016

This is the Gordie Bailey case out of Colorado. His mother is suing the fraternity. She is blaming Gordie's death on hazing.
I saw this mentioned on the news. Do I have standing to sue her for being stupid?
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Old 02-14-2007, 02:23 PM
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I saw this mentioned on the news. Do I have standing to sue her for being stupid?
Really not trying to start a fight. I am sincerely curious about your statement/question.
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Old 02-14-2007, 03:06 PM
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I saw this mentioned on the news. Do I have standing to sue her for being stupid?
Seriously?! You've got to be kidding.
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Old 02-14-2007, 04:13 PM
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His death is as much her fault as it is the fraternity's.
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Old 02-14-2007, 04:36 PM
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His death is as much her fault as it is the fraternity's.
Again, if you could just explain a little more. Not being sarcastic at all, but I am interested in how you are connecting the charges that this kid was alledgedly blindfolded, led up into the mountains, was encouraged to drink a lot of alcohol, passed out and had slurs painted on his body his mother's fault?

And, again, I said alledgedly. Except for the known part of this tragedy, a young man dying, nothing else has been proven yet.
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:38 PM
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His death is as much her fault as it is the fraternity's.
Yeah i'm gonna agree with LaneSig. How is any of that her fault?
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:51 PM
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This guy was a grown adult who participated in hazing. Maybe if she'd raised him better he would've had more sense. That's being blunt and an exaggeration of what I'm really saying here, but if she's trying to blame the fraternity, I don't think the fraternity would be wrong to turn around and try to put some of the blame on her. Why should she be entitled to recover money because her adult son did something stupid?

My opinion would be different if there were NEVER any acts of hazing that happened before this and he had no idea what was coming; or if something was slipped into his drink and he was, against his free will, unaware of what was happening; or if he was physically forced to do everything he did and could not possibly escape at any time. Is any of that the case here? All I've heard is that he was blindfolded and taken into the woods -- are you telling me that a healthy adult male couldn't have put the smackdown on anybody trying to blindfold him if he really didn't want to participate?

Yes, this is a tragedy and things like this should never happen again. Yes, these guys were assholes and they should've done something to help him when he was unconscious. However, parents blaming the fraternities is ridiculous. I'm sure my position is unpopular, but holy hell people should take responsibility for themselves and stop blaming others for their actions.
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