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02-03-2007, 01:49 PM
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Vote of No Confidence
Is there anything in our Constitution or Stat. Code that allows for a Vote of
No Confidence on a officer in the High Zeta?
If not, how does a non-officer go about questioning an officer?
Just Curious...
In ZAX,
Brandon
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02-03-2007, 01:50 PM
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Aside from running that is...
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02-03-2007, 05:07 PM
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I believe this might help you out...I took out IV-31a/b because they don't apply to your query.
Code IV-31. Powers and Duties of the Executive Committee. The
Executive Committee shall act for the Active Chapter/Colony in all
matters not requiring the vote of the entire membership and not
otherwise provided for in the Laws of the Fraternity or the Bylaws of
the Chapter/Colony. It shall have the following specific powers and
duties:
c. Declaring a vacancy in the High Zeta or other elective and
appointive offices caused by permanent disability, resignation, or
removal from office, and filling such vacancy, other than High
Alpha, by appointment or special election when necessary,
granting the right of any member to request a majority vote of the
Chapter/Colony on the dismissal, the new appointment, or both.
Code IV-7 shall apply in the case of replacing the High Alpha.
d. Authority to impose any penalty in a private informal hearing for
cause, granting the right of any active, associate, or alumnus
member disciplined to demand a formal disciplinary hearing
before the Chapter/Colony. The accused shall be entitled to be
present and heard at both the informal disciplinary hearing as
provided in Code X-3 and the formal disciplinary hearing as
provided in Code X-11. If no hearing is demanded, the finding
and sentence of the Executive Committee shall be deemed as
final, official, and binding. A full record of the proceedings shall
be kept, which must show briefly the charges, the evidence, and
the punishment imposed.
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02-03-2007, 06:37 PM
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You know, I really think you need to really be sure of what you're doing before a vote of no confidence or any type of public display against other members of the chapter.
Many, many times a chapter, big or small, will splinter and divide into groups or cliques. One group against another. A power struggle most times. I've seen it tear apart a chapter before.
I've been guilty of it, so have most of my other chapter brothers at one point. Thinking back, I should have let a little more slide before questioning our officers, because it wasn't until I was actually an officer that I understood where they were coming from.
Just remember, a vote of no confidence will result in problems, no matter what. It will automatically make the chapter chose sides, make each side defensive.
If it's something major, then please go forward with it, you have an obligation to. But please make sure it's something major and that inaction will significantly impact the chapter in a negative way.
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02-03-2007, 07:17 PM
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Ohh man - I was just watching Star Wars: The Phantom Menace and
the queen in the movie moves for a vote of no confidence. I just got
to thinking if there was something like that in the fraternity.
Kinda dorky, I know...It just got me wondering. No basis behind it
in my chapter at all...
In ZAX,
Brandon
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02-05-2007, 02:25 AM
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Read that section carefully
Read that section carefully. Code IV-31(c) says:
c. Declaring a vacancy in the High Zeta or other elective and
appointive offices caused by permanent disability, resignation, or
removal from office, and filling such vacancy,
If the officer is not permanently disabled, doesn't resign, or isn't otherwise removed (via academic discipline or financial discipline) then I don't think that the Ex-Comm can simoply fire him.
You could subject him to discipline for failing to discharge his duties as a violation of his oath of office and then if convicted then make the punishment removal from office . . .
You would get the same reult but via a more convoluted method. This may be something that we want to streamline.
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08-19-2008, 01:16 PM
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For some reason I keep picturing a scene from Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace...
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08-19-2008, 05:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cube TX
For some reason I keep picturing a scene from Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace...
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That's exactly what inspired this post originally.
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08-19-2008, 05:24 PM
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Ah, before there is a new writing how about a meeting of the Exec Council?
I do not and never did beleive in passing the gavel.
So, sit down with the Officer and discuss it!
If he does not agree then explain the problem. Talk about it!
If that does not work, then hold a special election for a vote.
Never step on the toes tho.
Is he really a screw up? Who voted him in?
Keep it in the Zeta.
If you cannot work it out, who do you think can help? An On Line Site?
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