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Old 07-26-2006, 03:51 PM
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Intoducing, my baby's daddy, Barack Obama!
You mean you weren't married?

I seriously like the guy though... as a politician! Geez.
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:34 PM
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I'm sure he's a nice guy. I just have a little problem with senator's wives introducing them as "my baby's daddy" on national tv.
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:44 PM
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I'm sure he's a nice guy. I just have a little problem with senator's wives introducing them as "my baby's daddy" on national tv.
Hadn't heard that one... got a link?

Read/listen to one of his speeches sometime though. And he seems to practice what he preaches.
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Old 07-26-2006, 05:05 PM
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http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/...ranscript.html

I've heard him speak, he is a good politician. He also may be a person of strong character, I dont know. However, the fact that I disagree on the majority of his issue stances would keep me from supporting him in any way.

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Old 07-26-2006, 05:53 PM
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http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/...ranscript.html

I've heard him speak, he is a good politician. He also may be a person of strong character, I dont know. However, the fact that I disagree on the majority of his issue stances would keep me from supporting him in any way.
Understandable. Though I feel that many times I would rather have a leader who I can trust, even if I don't agree with his stance. I'm not really 100% left or right. And when I lean right, Republicans don't always satisfy me (stop spending so much money dammit!) Same for leaning left. So if I can't have a candidate that I agree with 100% then at least have one who isn't going to be bought and sold to the highest bidder.
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Old 07-26-2006, 06:03 PM
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I overlook some things. If Barak was a person of obvious strong character and yet differed slightly on issues, I could support him. However, the differences between my ideology and his are too numerous.
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Old 07-26-2006, 06:06 PM
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The Junior Senator from Illinois hasn't had enough time to build up a list of enemies. Give it time.

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Old 07-26-2006, 08:14 PM
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I overlook some things. If Barak was a person of obvious strong character and yet differed slightly on issues, I could support him. However, the differences between my ideology and his are too numerous.
Understandable.

And as for enemies, you should have been in Illinois during the Senate race. I first started liking him when his responses to Alan Keyes attack ads/speeches (JESUS wouldn't vote for Barack Obama) were polite and on the issues instead of throwing the mud right back.

/Jesus isn't registered to vote in Illinois.. only dead people vote here, not resurrected ones
//Plus I'm pretty sure he's not a US Citizen
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Old 08-08-2006, 11:13 AM
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It is bizarre. I cannot think of one politician in congress besides Lieberman that is Jewish. Can you?
Actually...Herb Kohl and Russ Feingold, both from Wisconsin, are also Jewish.

Furthermore, both oppose the war, with Feingold being one of the most outspoken opponents.
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Old 08-08-2006, 12:08 PM
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Furthermore, both oppose the war, with Feingold being one of the most outspoken opponents.

Feingold is also a tremendous douche about all things political, so I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here.
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Old 08-08-2006, 12:17 PM
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What are you thoughts and why?



The man is Jewish. Israel is right next to Iraq. Any nation that does not define itself as an islamic state and who goes to war in the mid-east Joe Lieberman will support whether it be England, France, Italy, Germany, whoever. Conquering any arab nation helps ensure Israel's chance for survival (not that they need it being as they're the most powerful nation in the mid-east) and it's a given any jew anywhere in the world would be for a war against islamic states. Can anyone tell me why members of our party have a hard time seeing the reason for his stance on the war?
My comment was in response to this...
Just pointing out that Feingold is both Jewish and opposed to the war
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:34 PM
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Feingold is also a tremendous douche about all things political, so I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here.

I think she's getting at that GAC3710 was saying Jews will always want to go to war with Islamic states, and saying that there are no Jews in Congress besides Mr. Lieberman, and she was proving him wrong on both accounts.

Also, I don't really think Feingold is a douche. If we're going to start calling Wisconsin politicians douches, I would start with one F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr.
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:57 PM
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Russ rivals Pelosi and McKinney for biggest douche in Washington.

I'm not a huge fan of Frist, but when he basically bitch slapped Feingold on the censure resolution, what a great moment.
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:59 PM
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Wisconsin, gross.
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Old 08-08-2006, 09:42 PM
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Yeah, my bad. I forgot that disliking a state, especially a rabidly liberal one, is not classy. When you throw people like Russ Feingold up there, thats the reaction you get...

A brief synopsis...

Russ: Lets censure the President...

Frist: Ok, lets do it Russ, lets call a vote...

Democrats: Uh, we, uh, no, we're not prepared for that...
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