2 Coastal Pikes in alcohol poisoning coma - Page 2

Tom Earp · #16 02-12-2006, 12:25 PM

When You get some hair on Your face, then you may sling arrows in verbal comments such as idiots.

Until then, why dont You keep us updated on the situation instead.

If there was not smoke or fire somewhere, then the article would not have happened would it?

kddani · #17 02-12-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by Tom Earp
Until then, why dont You keep us updated on the situation instead.
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That's not a wise idea at all. Young men from that chapter should not be publicly making comments on the situation. I'm sure their advisors and/or legal representation has warned them not to.

Tom Earp · #18 02-12-2006, 01:35 PM

So, do We know who this person is from The Alias on GC?

Better than supositions wouldnt it?

DeltAlum · #19 02-12-2006, 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by coastalpike
If both of you idiots were as old school as you claim you are then u would realize why i have no comment at this point in time.

Grow up. I don't like name calling in this forum. Make your point like an adult -- or go somewhere else.

I'm not asking you to make a comment. I'm asking you to stop making comments you can't back up until the investigation is over.

I agree with Dani that you shouldn't talk about specifics of the incident, but updates such as where the investigation stands (ie, we expect to hear something within a month) shouldn't hurt.

Being a wise guy doesn't help your cause with anyone, though.

USCTKE · #20 02-22-2006, 06:42 PM

I just heard from a friend of mine that goes to school at Coastal that they got suspened from campus until 2013

georgewallace3 · #21 02-22-2006, 06:52 PM

wow

shinerbock · #22 02-22-2006, 06:53 PM

to the coastal pike:

Why not just tell everyone to screw themselves. Its not their business. People think just because they are in a greek org, they have a right to know everything about every situation. Whats more, even if they didn't have a pre existing condition, what difference does it make. So a couple fraternity guys took it too far and got way too drunk. I highly doubt the fraternity poured alcohol down their throat. One day we'll re-enter the age of personal responsibility. Sure, democrats will hate it, but I for one will be thankful.

oldrowPHI · #23 02-22-2006, 07:05 PM

well said

georgewallace3 · #24 02-22-2006, 07:46 PM

great post. it is amazing how insane people can be on this site.

georgewallace3 · #25 02-22-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Not at all.

Just a fairly straightforward paraphrased update of what I read this morning. As I said earlier, my deep hope is that the chapter will be completely cleared. I was an advisor and division officer too long to want to see chapters or members in trouble.

On the other hand, it's too easy to simply say that the reporter has blown something out of proportion without some backup.

At this point, we have a poster claiming one thing and a reporter claiming another.

I hope our member is right, but he hasn't really supported his comments.

Why don't you just shut the hell up and leave the guy alone.....he is obviously in the fraternity and knows much more about the situation than you do...Who gives a flying rats ass what the media said about a Fraternity related incident. Hell, The UGA Media had a field day with the freshman SAE's death and it took the kid's poor parents to shut everyone up in a friggin press release. The moderators on this site need to stop making it their personal crusades to prove that someone is not a greek just because they think they aren't. Let the kid prove he actually knows, by letting him post when he is allowed to. Hell, you accused some SAE from UT that he wasn't really a Greek there because he wouldn't go outside and take pictures of his house and then post them on here for you.

Leave the f*cking kid alone.

DeltAlum · #26 02-22-2006, 08:25 PM

Relax George,

He claims the media has blown this out of proportion. That's possible. It's also possible that the chapter is using that as an excuse to hide behind their own problem(s).

We have no official information on the investigation -- which may not be finished.

On the other hand, now we have an as yet unconfirmed report that the chapter has been suspended for seven years.

I'm not refuting either poster. What I object to is people calling others juvenile names.

By the way, where do I question his Greek affiliation?

Again, people may feel free to debate and disagree here, as long as it is done with respect.

I don't think that being called an idiot is particularly respectful.

georgewallace3 · #27 02-22-2006, 08:31 PM

I don't think I called you an idiot? And I was really just referring to the Mods in General, I have seen that kind of think all over the place

coastalpike · #28 02-22-2006, 09:04 PM

It is true that we were suspended for 7 years today. However, the suspension had nothing to do with the 2 students going to the hospital.

According to school officials the fraternity has now been expelled for hazing. They have not released any details to us but from what we have heard 2 women at the party say that they saw a couple of brothers tell a couple of pledges to drink.

The school interviewed all of the pledges involved including the 2 that were hospitalized and every single one of them told the school that they were never forced to do anything and certainly were not hazed at the bid day event.

The so-called review board was made up of 2 members of other campus fraternities, 2 advisors to other campus fraternities, the school spokesman, and the dean of students.

I am an alumnus of this chapter and here is my honest opinion about this matter. After the school saw the media take hold of this situation, they realized that they would have to take some kind of action in order to show that the school does not condone this behavior (use us as an example). When the school realized that everything that we were originally charged with was not as it seemed, they looked for anything they possibly could that would be considered against school policy. In came statements from 2 random women saying they saw brothers telling pledges to drinnk and wham, kicked off for 7 years.

Our fraternity has been on campus for 9 years and has never had one sanction placed on it. I feel it is ridiculous that we have been kicked off for 7 years for the first sanction ever placed on us. Especially when all of the pledges who were so-called hazed, testified to the same board that they were not hazed. Correct me if I am wrong but if all of the so-called victims of hazing all said that they in fact were not, how could the school charge us for that?

Anyways, they will be submitting their appeal tommorow morning. I will let you know when I know more. I will also answer any questions now that the investigation is over.

grizzlyWG · #29 02-22-2006, 09:14 PM

Thats some bullshit. I can understand them taking allegations seriously, but come on, 7 years on an unproven allegation.

USCTKE · #30 02-22-2006, 09:51 PM

7 years does seem kinda extreme for an unproven allegation. But as to why the University would still take action even though the pledges denied they were hazed, is probably because the University was afraid that the denials were not exactly truthful. I mean if the pledges were hazed (Im not saying they were just throwing out a hypothetical situation) and they were called in and said yes we were hazed then if they chose to stay with the organization there is a rather good chance that the pledges that admitted to being hazed would be "punished" by the other members of the fraternity. Also I would say there is probably some chance that even if they were hazed the pledges would have lied about it anyway in the "spirit" of "brotherhood".
To me it seems like a very unfortunate situation.