Incorporated?

[CutiePie2000]

Originally posted by AlphaChiGirl:
Isn't it true that not all NPHC groups are incorporated in every state? I've heard something to this effect.

Perhaps we need a lawyer with corporate law experience to comment on this "Inc." issue.
I've read all the posts and I still don't quite understand why the "Inc." is there. There must some sort of tax advantage or financial implications to being incorporated. Still, the NPHC sororities are "Their Name Sorority Inc.", whereas the NPC sororities are usually just "Their Name Sorority or Fraternity". Why don't the NPC sororities have this? Is there some sort of different financial implications?

[CutiePie2000]

somehow my computer did a "blip" and posted twice. I do apologize.

[lluvmook98]

Until we get a lawyer (like Cutie said)or a president of one of these organizations will we ever really know except for someones opinion? As far as I can tell it is irrelevant except to organizations that choose to have "Inc." at the end of everything. Whether it is arrogance or it serves a legal purpose. Isn't this one of those topics that is not an opinion but a fact. There is a real reason why they use them. As of right now none of us can give the official reason.

[Franny Granny]

Does it matter? Some choose to put Inc. at the end of their org. name....Some don't...What the hell does it MATTER?! None at all. I hate it when HBGLO's get questioned about every thing that goes on within the orgs...Why do you use the "Grip" so much?...Why is everything secret?...Why do you only use your own colors on nalia'?...Why do you put Inc. after your org. name? (like all these are bad things to do!!! )..Why...Why..Why..WHY NOT is my question! That is just how things go in HBGLO's...get used to it.
Why must YOU (Rainman if you don't know who I'm directing this to) try to put a whole legacy of organizations down because you don't practice the same procedures within your org. It's idiotic!!! Get over it...

[Rain Man]

Originally posted by Franny Granny:
Does it matter? Some choose to put Inc. at the end of their org. name....Some don't...What the hell does it MATTER?! None at all. I hate it when HBGLO's get questioned about every thing that goes on within the orgs...Why do you use the "Grip" so much?...Why is everything secret?...Why do you only use your own colors on nalia'?...Why do you put Inc. after your org. name? (like all these are bad things to do!!! )..Why...Why..Why..WHY NOT is my question! That is just how things go in HBGLO's...get used to it.
Why must YOU (Rainman if you don't know who I'm directing this to) try to put a whole legacy of organizations down because you don't practice the same procedures within your org. It's idiotic!!! Get over it...

Fanny Granny
All I said was I did not see the point why HBGLOs felt they have to put the "Inc" at the end the name EVERY SINGLE TIME they said the name, particularly when mentioning their three-letter name would be sufficient. I was not putting anybody down.

Also, since you said these things NPHC orgs do, get used to it, I would say that the HBGLO members need to get used to this type of questioning and scrutiny. This is not anything new and is not going to go away anytime soon.

Fanny Granny, lighten up, A'ight?

Rain Man

[DELTABRAT]

Here we go, again. Rain Man. WHy is it that every time someone asks a question of BGLO practices/standards, you act as if though your is the only qualified answer. I find it intersting (check it out on other posts) that when people ask questions that really don't pertain to or many BGLO members don't feel "qualified" to answer, we just shut up.
I think the members of BGLOs answered the questions appropriately without you further agitating the situation with the "why?" comments.

Additionallyy, how come one or two people say something to you and you go and roast the entire NPHC. For you to say that we say the Incorporated arrogantly is crazy. Or that someone in a BGLO said that Alphi Chi Omega isn't real because they aren't incorporated so that somehow implicates all of us.

Tell you what, I personally don't care if you are or aren't incorporated. I know who is. And my Soror 12dn4dst gave a very good answer to KappaGirl in that at the time our organizations were incorporated, not many Black organizations were accomplishing such things as easily as white organizations. Therefore, we are proud of our incorporated status.

Just my thoughts, sweetie.

To my Sisters and Brothers in Greekdom Peace out!

OH YEAH, AND A BIG

OOOOOOO-OOP to my Sorors of *clearing my throat*

DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY, IIIIIINNNNNCORPORATED!!!!!!!

[Rain Man]

Originally posted by DELTABRAT:
Here we go, again. Rain Man. WHy is it that every time someone asks a question of BGLO practices/standards, you act as if though your is the only qualified answer. I find it intersting (check it out on other posts) that when people ask questions that really don't pertain to or many BGLO members don't feel "qualified" to answer, we just shut up.
I think the members of BGLOs answered the questions appropriately without you further agitating the situation with the "why?" comments.

Additionallyy, how come one or two people say something to you and you go and roast the entire NPHC. For you to say that we say the Incorporated arrogantly is crazy. Or that someone in a BGLO said that Alphi Chi Omega isn't real because they aren't incorporated so that somehow implicates all of us.

Tell you what, I personally don't care if you are or aren't incorporated. I know who is. And my Soror 12dn4dst gave a very good answer to KappaGirl in that at the time our organizations were incorporated, not many Black organizations were accomplishing such things as easily as white organizations. Therefore, we are proud of our incorporated status.

Just my thoughts, sweetie.

To my Sisters and Brothers in Greekdom Peace out!

OH YEAH, AND A BIG

OOOOOOO-OOP to my Sorors of *clearing my throat*

DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY, IIIIIINNNNNCORPORATED!!!!!!!

Deltabrat, I only have 2 points to make and I'm gonna wrap this up:

1. It's one thing to show pride in an achievement, eg being incorporated, getting a degree, etc., but it's another to shove that title or status in everyone else's face and to force them to accept it. It only harbors resentment and feeds a spirit of rebellion. Whether you worked hard for it or not is no excuse and is of no consequence.

2. (and this is PURE IRONY) First you said that for me to say that [NPHCers] use the Incorporated arrogantly is crazy. You ended your post by saying "Delta.....INNNCOOORPORATED" in that very same arrogant tone I was telling you about.

Thank you for helping me make my point.

PING *trilon (flippy box) on Level 6 reveals a "Whew" logo indicating a sucessful win for Rain Man as "Whew" fanfare plays*
(Another "Whew" thang, yall)

Da Rain Man
*stepping from the green "charger" podium ready to take on the Gauntlet of Villians*

[cash78mere]

Originally posted by DELTABRAT:
[B]Or that someone in a BGLO said that Alphi Chi Omega isn't real because they aren't incorporated so that somehow implicates all of us.

[B]

Hi Deltabrat--

I just wanted to make a clarification. I am not commenting on the argument, just a specific.

I believe Rainman is speaking of Alpha PHI Omega, not my sorority Alpha CHI Omega. APO is a national co-ed service fraternity while AXO is a national sorority.

No Alpha Chi Omega has ever spoken badly about the BGLO's on this board so I just wanted to clarify that so that you don't get the 2 confused.

Thanks!

[mccoyred]

Originally posted by Rain Man:

1. It's one thing to show pride in an achievement, eg being incorporated, getting a degree, etc., but it's another to shove that title or status in everyone else's face and to force them to accept it. It only harbors resentment and feeds a spirit of rebellion. Whether you worked hard for it or not is no excuse and is of no consequence.

2. (and this is PURE IRONY) First you said that for me to say that [NPHCers] use the Incorporated arrogantly is crazy. You ended your post by saying "Delta.....INNNCOOORPORATED" in that very same arrogant tone I was telling you about.

Can we just say that it is TRADITION and leave it alone?

Another
Devastating
Diva of
Delta Sigma Theta Sorority IIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNCORPORATED!!



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[DELTABRAT]

Rain Man:

C'mon homie. To say that that was arrogant is plain nuts! You cannot see me, my facial expressions or other non-verbal gestures. The arrogance that you speak of is simply YOUR INTERPRETATION of it because you don't understand it. You are entitled to your opinion and I respect it, but you cannot say that I or the way I say something is arrogant based on the way I typed it. That is ludicrous. So your point hasn't been proven.

Peace out.

Oh yeah, and blank bloom blip and a *wink* and wince or whatever else, too.

Oh, and cash78mere, my humblest apologies for that mistake. See what happens when people speak on things they don't know much about?

OUT!

[This message has been edited by DELTABRAT (edited November 03, 2000).]

[Rain Man]

Originally posted by DELTABRAT:
Rain Man:

C'mon homie. To say that that was arrogant is plain nuts! You cannot see me, my facial expressions or other non-verbal gestures. The arrogance that you speak of is simply YOUR INTERPRETATION of it because you don't understand it. You are entitled to your opinion and I respect it, but you cannot say that I or the way I say something is arrogant based on the way I typed it. That is ludicrous. So your point hasn't been proven.

Peace out.

Oh yeah, and blank bloom blip and a *wink* and wince or whatever else, too.

Oh, and cash78mere, my humblest apologies for that mistake. See what happens when people speak on things they don't know much about?

OUT!

[This message has been edited by DELTABRAT (edited November 03, 2000).]

Deltabrat,

We have agreed to disagree. And YES, I spoke on something I didn't know about and said so in no uncertain terms b/c I was trying to understand it.

*ROTFL at the blank bloom blip, etc*
I needed that laugh (the computer server at my job was down much of the day and just got back on line and the office up until now has been a madhouse of activity).

I am gonna email you at how "Whew" is played and how I incorporate such terms as "charge", "block", and "Longshot!" into my casual/cyber conversations.

Have a good weekend.

Da Rain Man

[DELTABRAT]

You too Rain Man!!!

[Shelacious]

Originally posted by Rain Man:


2. (and this is PURE IRONY) First you said that for me to say that [NPHCers] use the Incorporated arrogantly is crazy. You ended your post by saying "Delta.....INNNCOOORPORATED" in that very same arrogant tone I was telling you about.

Promised myself that I wasn't going to jump in this one . Sigh. This was an innocent question originally. I would think that most National GLO's are incorporated, and that incorporation means the same for all.

Regarding NPHC orgs (particular sororities') use of the term "incorporation":
For those that think they hear "arrogance" when a member of any NPHC sorority states the name of that said organization...that "arrogance" is not (or should not be) directed at other GLOs--in fact, it has nothing to do with other GLOs, non-Greek affiliates or anyone else at all. The best way I can describe it is:

To understand the history or tradition of any one NPHC Sorority, it is sometimes necessary to understand something of the history of ALL NPHC Sororities.

Those who know my posts know I am usually pretty free giving information, but this is really one of those cases where it's not so much a secret, it's a specific tradition born of our collective and individual histories. Those of my sister-sorors who understand what I'm talking about (and many of you do, based on your posts—it’s just difficult to articulate) can understand what I'm getting at here.

Best,
a member of Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Innnnncorporated!


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[Rain Man]

Originally posted by CutiePie2000:
I learned something new today!

I was on the Alpha Omicron Pi website today (it is an NPC sorority) and learned that they actually do have "inc." in their name too. (I was always under the erroneous impression that NPHC groups have "Inc.", whereas NPC groups do not)
http://www.alphaomicronpi.org/conten...cies/term.html
They had a page on terminology policies and it said this:
Alpha Omicron Pi Fraternity, Inc.

The term "incorporated" shall not be used on fraternity publications or stationery except where it is legally required.

So I learned that at least *one* NPC group uses "Inc." too, not just the NPHC groups.
I would venture a guess that other NPC groups have "Inc." in their name too, even if this is not explicitly addressed on their websites.

I thought I would share that "find" with you!!

In my first post on this subject, I essentially said the same thing you are saying now, yet everyone chose to ignore it.

Thank you for helping me make my point.

Rain Man

[CutiePie2000]

I learned something new today!

I was on the Alpha Omicron Pi website today (it is an NPC sorority) and learned that they actually do have "inc." in their name too. (I was always under the erroneous impression that NPHC groups have "Inc.", whereas NPC groups do not)
http://www.alphaomicronpi.org/conten...cies/term.html
They had a page on terminology policies and it said this:
Alpha Omicron Pi Fraternity, Inc.

The term "incorporated" shall not be used on fraternity publications or stationery except where it is legally required.

So I learned that at least *one* NPC group uses "Inc." too, not just the NPHC groups.
I would venture a guess that other NPC groups have "Inc." in their name too, even if this is not explicitly addressed on their websites.

I thought I would share that "find" with you!!