Nupes that only deal with other Nupes made undergrad

[ZebraNupe]

hmmmm

[PrettyBoy]

Old thread, but I like it.

I pledged undergrad 15 years ago. I guess I feel like this. If a brother isn't made right, it's kool. It just bothers me a little knowing what me and my 5 sands did for 16 weeks, and then to see a brother come in on a new program. I still respect him like the next brother, because we are in the same fraternity. I guess since I'm a lot older now, I look at what he's doing for the fraternity right now, not what he did to get in. 15 years ago? Yeah, then, to me it was all about how hard a brother was and what his pledge period was like.

[Luckie1922]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Yanno, if you weren't breaking the rules in the first place you wouldn't have to worry about "trusting" brothers in alumni chapters.

It's not a matter of them not understaning, it is a matter of them knowing the harm that it could bring to the fraternity as a whole. Hopefully, someday you will get to that place, too.

I agree. I came through graduate chapter, and I hope the work I perform speaks highly for my character. I don’t think all graduate members are seeking to undermine undergraduates or have forgotten being undergraduates. I believe as we get older we start to gain a more established prospective on how the world operates, we begin to look at our organizations not just a sorority or fraternity but as a thriving business, then become a member willing to do what it takes to grow that business. Handing out thousands and millions of dollars for avoidable incidents doesn’t benefit the members or the organization and alienating people on the actions of a few is never a good practice.

[dkency]

All I have to say is that I have experienced my beloved fraternity on the undergrad side and the graduate side. As much respect as I have for the grad chapter I would have to say that the brothers that do come through have no bond. But I also think that the brothers who are undergrads that are doing all the complaining should do something about it like graduate with a degree so you can join a graduate chapter, stop letting situations happen like they did at FAMU because it's embarrasing to the older brothers. Some of you guys sit there and think we snitch just to snitch, but what if I told you that we were a couple of lawsuits from being bankrupted? Not so pissed of with the alumni now are you? Or what if you pledge 10 weeks only to be told that Kappa Alpha Psi is no more. The one thing that some brothers don't understand and what I didn't understand as an undergrad is that Kappa Alpha Psi is more than just a Fraternity it's a business. A business that has achieved on the backs of 10 strong black men for 96 years and I will be damn if I let it be destroyed because of a few brothers who think they have something to prove. If you want to pledge then pledge, but pledge the right way!

KAY

[MeezDiscreet]

Originally Posted by dkency

All I have to say is that I have experienced my beloved fraternity on the undergad side and the graduate side. As much respect as I have for the grad chapter I would have to say that the bothers that do come through have no bond. But I also think that the brothers who are undergrads that are doing all the complaining should do something about it like graduate with a degree so you can join a graduate chapter, stop letting situations happen like they did at FAMU because it's embarrasing to the older brahs. Some of you guys sit there and think we snitch just to snitch but what if I told you that we were a couple of lawsuits from being bankrupted? Not so pissed of with the alumni now are you? Or what if you pledge 10 weeks only to be told that Kappa Alpha Psi is no more. The one thing that some brothers don't understand and what I didn't understand as an undergrad is that this Kappa Alpha Psi is more than just a Fraternity it's buisiness. A business that has achieved on the backs of 10 strong black men for 96 years and I will be damn if I let it be destroyed because of a few brothers who think they have something to prove. If you want to pledge then pledge, but pledge the right way!

KAY

THA TRUTH!!!!!!!!!

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by dkency

All I have to say is that I have experienced my beloved fraternity on the undergad side and the graduate side. As much respect as I have for the grad chapter I would have to say that the bothers that do come through have no bond. But I also think that the brothers who are undergrads that are doing all the complaining should do something about it like graduate with a degree so you can join a graduate chapter, stop letting situations happen like they did at FAMU because it's embarrasing to the older brahs. Some of you guys sit there and think we snitch just to snitch but what if I told you that we were a couple of lawsuits from being bankrupted? Not so pissed of with the alumni now are you? Or what if you pledge 10 weeks only to be told that Kappa Alpha Psi is no more. The one thing that some brothers don't understand and what I didn't understand as an undergrad is that this Kappa Alpha Psi is more than just a Fraternity it's buisiness. A business that has achieved on the backs of 10 strong black men for 96 years and I will be damn if I let it be destroyed because of a few brothers who think they have something to prove. If you want to pledge then pledge, but pledge the right way!

KAY

REAL TALK!!


(especially considering that I went through grad chapter and the fact that undergraduate "pledging" in the 1990s had in my observation went completely out of control).

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

Old thread, but I like it.

I pledged undergrad 15 years ago. I guess I feel like this. If a brother isn't made right, it's kool. It just bothers me a little knowing what me and my 5 sands did for 16 weeks, and then to see a brother come in on a new program. I still respect him like the next brother, because we are in the same fraternity. I guess since I'm a lot older now, I look at what he's doing for the fraternity right now, not what he did to get in. 15 years ago? Yeah, then, to me it was all about how hard a brother was and what his pledge period was like.

OOOOOOH LAWD....I didn't know you were THAT old! I thought you were in your early twenties for some reason.

[black_princess]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

OOOOOOH LAWD....I didn't know you were THAT old! I thought you were in your early twenties for some reason.

cosign

*hopes are officially dashed j/k *

[RitaMae1908]

Originally Posted by dkency

All I have to say is that I have experienced my beloved fraternity on the undergad side and the graduate side. As much respect as I have for the grad chapter I would have to say that the bothers that do come through have no bond. But I also think that the brothers who are undergrads that are doing all the complaining should do something about it like graduate with a degree so you can join a graduate chapter, stop letting situations happen like they did at FAMU because it's embarrasing to the older brahs. Some of you guys sit there and think we snitch just to snitch but what if I told you that we were a couple of lawsuits from being bankrupted? Not so pissed of with the alumni now are you? Or what if you pledge 10 weeks only to be told that Kappa Alpha Psi is no more. The one thing that some brothers don't understand and what I didn't understand as an undergrad is that this Kappa Alpha Psi is more than just a Fraternity it's buisiness. A business that has achieved on the backs of 10 strong black men for 96 years and I will be damn if I let it be destroyed because of a few brothers who think they have something to prove. If you want to pledge then pledge, but pledge the right way!

KAY

Say That!

[12dn94dst]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

OOOOOOH LAWD....I didn't know you were THAT old! I thought you were in your early twenties for some reason.

he ain't "that old" LOL at least not to me! Early 30s ain't old!! didn't u pay attention to Jay-Z? 30 IS THE NEW 20!! (so he is in his early 20s lol) HOLLA!!!!

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by 12dn94dst

he ain't "that old" LOL at least not to me! Early 30s ain't old!! didn't u pay attention to Jay-Z? 30 IS THE NEW 20!! (so he is in his early 20s lol) HOLLA!!!!

LOL

I know...but, he gave out the vibe (to me) that he was in his early or mid twenties. I was shocked to know he was in his 30s after reading some of his posts in the D&R forum, lol.

[litAKAtor]

Originally Posted by dkency

All I have to say is that I have experienced my beloved fraternity on the undergrad side and the graduate side. As much respect as I have for the grad chapter I would have to say that the brothers that do come through have no bond. But I also think that the brothers who are undergrads that are doing all the complaining should do something about it like graduate with a degree so you can join a graduate chapter, stop letting situations happen like they did at FAMU because it's embarrasing to the older brothers. Some of you guys sit there and think we snitch just to snitch, but what if I told you that we were a couple of lawsuits from being bankrupted? Not so pissed of with the alumni now are you? Or what if you pledge 10 weeks only to be told that Kappa Alpha Psi is no more. The one thing that some brothers don't understand and what I didn't understand as an undergrad is that Kappa Alpha Psi is more than just a Fraternity it's a business. A business that has achieved on the backs of 10 strong black men for 96 years and I will be damn if I let it be destroyed because of a few brothers who think they have something to prove. If you want to pledge then pledge, but pledge the right way!

KAY

AMEN!!!

[Suavesince1911]

I know this thread is old (and I am late), but I found it rather interesting.

I wonder if our founders would have the disposition that they would only deal with brothers who were "made" at the undergraduate level.

Nowadays, it appears that we have a "fraternity within a fraternity," which brings about strife and division, and it defeats everything that our founders fought hard to eliminate.


I'm simply rambling here, but I think some brothers should (re)consider their thoughts and actions, and ask themselves if the founders would approve of them. If your answer is no, then why in the hell are you acting in that manner? If they wouldn't act this way, then what gives YOU the right??? Too many brothers have forgotten the meaning of Phi Nu Pi.

[ladygreek]

^^^^ Good point. Some of my founders set the seed for what are now alumnae chapters--forming chapters for women of distinction who had already graduated from college. So I believe they would be shaking their heads at this collegiate v. alumnae intake issue.

[Suavesince1911]

If they only knew of our selfish agendas, and how unbrotherly/unsisterly we have become( oftentimes because of how someone was initiated into the organization), then they would turn over in their respective graves.

Why hold it against a member who had no control over his/her process? How would you feel if someone held something against you that you couldn't control? Does anyone ever think about this?

Be careful how you treat those so-called "paper" members because one day you just MIGHT need them.


@Ladygreek, I have read your responses to this thread, and I must say that I truly admire your mature way of thinking.