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Old 11-04-2005, 10:52 AM
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I've learned something new today, Indonesia and India is located in the Middle East and they're both Arab countries.


Actually, they were all British citizens.
I actually meant places of birth; ie one was born in Jamaica then moved to England, while some others (but not all) immigrated from Pakistan.
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Old 11-04-2005, 11:01 AM
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I've never been to Giants stadium. Is it obvious that these are air induct tanks to average people?
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:07 PM
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There was one incident of the building blowing up in OK. The guy did not do it to spread Christianity. It hasn't happened elsewhere.

If there is a religious person that is carrying a big bag with wires sticking out of it around an abortion clinic he is suspect.

If there is a gentleman speaking German with tattoos pacing around a Jewish temple, he is suspect.

These guys weren't just middle eastern and at Giants Stadium. They were hanging around the air ducts.

You shouldn't worry about American law. You are not an American citizen and have no say in it.

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perhaps you should go back and look at my post - I did list some objections to your pathetically blanket blaming/labeling...

I mean seriously by your logic all German/Christians should be suspect when they are near someone Jewish or something Jewish owned - or European/Christians should be detained in case they get the urge to burn/rape/cannibalize any Muslims - or WASP Americans need to be carefully watched in case they might slaughter native Americans in the name of their 'God'/Menifest Destiny - or again WASP Americans should be watched for signs of imminent slave trading - all Canadians/British should be watched in case they plan on burning Washington again.

Was there a mass hysteria after OK? Were people denied their civil and legal rights because they matched a the broad description of White Christians?

I thought that the law was supposed to protect a persons right to practice their faith, and to protect them from illegal search and seizure - or did Heir Ashcroft abolish that too?
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:08 PM
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Hoosier you also forgot to add the massacre at the school in Chechnya.

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Old 11-04-2005, 12:23 PM
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Hoosier you also forgot to add the massacre at the school in Chechnya.

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Why Rudey were those also "mideastern muslims" too
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:25 PM
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Why Rudey were those also "mideastern muslims" too
Were they Canadian Christians with backing from a European church?

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Old 11-04-2005, 12:36 PM
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Were they Canadian Christians with backing from a European church?

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Nope - It just that silly me thought they were Chechen sepratists... and see ethnic Chechens aren't what most would consider "mideastern"/middle-eastern... nationalism nor religion seems to be the primary motivator for most Chechen sepratists (with the drug trade being a close second).
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:39 PM
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Nope - It just that silly me thought they were Chechen sepratists... and see ethnic Chechens aren't what most would consider "mideastern"/middle-eastern... nationalism nor religion seems to be the primary motivator for most Chechen sepratists (with the drug trade being a close second).
Right so Muslim with links to Al Quaeda and other Islamic terrorist groups? Hence the editorials in Arab and Middle Eastern paper talking about collective shame. I got it.

And not Canadian Christian terrorists with links to the Vatican? I didn't think so. The Vatican isn't in that business and Canadian Christians haven't blown up planes and all that.

OK just checking and confirming.

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Old 11-04-2005, 12:49 PM
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And not Canadian Christian terrorists with links to the Vatican? I didn't think so. The Vatican isn't in that business and Canadian Christians haven't blown up planes and all that.
No see the terrorists from Canada were motivated by politics not religion Rudey Marxism not Christianity, and those guys were back in the 70s and they bombed schools, recruiting centres, government buildings, banks... kidnapped and killed a Quebec minister, and kidnapped a British minister... although a couple of years ago they did firebomb some Second Cups and a few McDonalds...

Other Canadian terrorist actual have blown up airplanes - perhaps you've heard of an Air India bombing? It's still being investigated - mainly because of the government's and prosecutor's screwing up.

As for terrorists with ties to the Vatican - well I thought that was some 1000 to 700 years ago... but then again they did go above and beyond in depravity compared to modern terrorists...
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:55 PM
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No see the terrorists from Canada were motivated by politics not religion Rudey Marxism not Christianity, and those guys were back in the 70s and they bombed schools, recruiting centres, government buildings, banks... kidnapped and killed a Quebec minister, and kidnapped a British minister... although a couple of years ago they did firebomb some Second Cups and a few McDonalds...

As for terrorists with ties to the Vatican - well I thought that was some 1000 to 700 years ago... but then again they did go above and beyond in depravity compared to modern terrorists...
If you want to go 1000 years back you should comment on the dinosaurs and how they terrorized each other also.

But again, Muslim with terrorist backing (training, financial, man power, weapons) from Islamic terror groups such as Al Queada. The Muslim world felt ashamed after, yada yada.

And no Canadian Christians have blown up airplanes or buildings as I thought.

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Old 11-04-2005, 12:56 PM
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There was one incident of the building blowing up in OK. The guy did not do it to spread Christianity. It hasn't happened elsewhere.
And you think Al-Qeida and other terrorists orgs in the Middle East are doing it to spread islam?
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:01 PM
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And you think Al-Qeida and other terrorists orgs in the Middle East are doing it to spread islam?
No. Of course not.

They are doing it to modernize the world and take us into the digital age.

I think some of the terrorist orgs are doing it because it's the new cool thing to do - like driving a Prius or becoming a Scientologist.

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Old 11-04-2005, 01:16 PM
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No. Of course not.

They are doing it to modernize the world and take us into the digital age.

I think some of the terrorist orgs are doing it because it's the new cool thing to do - like driving a Prius or becoming a Scientologist.

-Rudey
*playing along*

Because blowing things/people up is a FUN way to get your point across.

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Old 11-04-2005, 01:18 PM
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*playing along*

Because blowing things/people up is a FUN way to get your point across.

I don't think it's worth it to kill thousands of people and blow up planes and buildings for DSL and high speed internet, but I'm an old fashioned guy.

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Old 11-04-2005, 01:20 PM
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No see the terrorists from Canada were motivated by politics not religion Rudey Marxism not Christianity, and those guys were back in the 70s and they bombed schools, recruiting centres, government buildings, banks... kidnapped and killed a Quebec minister, and kidnapped a British minister... although a couple of years ago they did firebomb some Second Cups and a few McDonalds...

Other Canadian terrorist actual have blown up airplanes - perhaps you've heard of an Air India bombing? It's still being investigated - mainly because of the government's and prosecutor's screwing up.

As for terrorists with ties to the Vatican - well I thought that was some 1000 to 700 years ago... but then again they did go above and beyond in depravity compared to modern terrorists...
Are you bragging???
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