The Rules For When Threads Are Deleted

[honeychile]

Originally posted by OtterXO
I totally understand your point. My problem with that soort of policy is that if someone doesn't like a particular person they can just report the person over and over to get posts/threads deleted.

Not knowing what type of post was deleted, I would imagine that it fell under the TOS rules of use. None of the mods like to delete things just for kicks.

[OtterXO]

Originally posted by honeychile
Not knowing what type of post was deleted, I would imagine that it fell under the TOS rules of use. None of the mods like to delete things just for kicks.

Didn't you guys say that the TOS rules are pretty much "for any reason"? So under that rule they CAN just delete threads for kicks. (reminder: I'm not trying to be argumentative)

Also, I'm talking about threads (not posts) being deleted.

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by OtterXO ETA: I actually did PM the mod and I haven't gotten any response yet.

Well, actually you didn't -- at least in one case because I didn't get a PM from you and I deleted one of the threads.

There is nothing personal.

The reasons were what I considered gratuitous use of vulger language, talk about sexual matters that offended some readers and what, in my opinion, were clear violations of the Terms of Service which everyone agreed to when signing on to GC.

I can't speak for anyone else who deleted threads or posts. I also can't speak for moderators in other forums over which I have no say. If they choose to allow violations of the TOS, there's nothing I can do about it. However, this is a public board and people who have little or no concern for how they affect others when they want to have a civil discussion get little sympathy from me.

If you believe I, or another moderator, is/am being unfair, please feel free to take your complaint to the board administrator.

Otherwise, posters can clean up their act or risk deletions or banning.

[Lindz928]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Otherwise, posters can clean up their act or risk deletions or banning.

I think there are quite a few posters on this board who should read this.

[cashmoney]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Otherwise, posters can clean up their act or risk deletions or banning.

I'm certainly not one to be complaining about fairness, I think I'm treated fairly considering some of the shit I pull. But, to comment on what you just wrote;

I don't think banning or deleting entire threads really solves the dillema. I kind of look at it the same way I do prison. It causes more problems in the end. You delete a thread and someone posts it right back up. You delete people's posts....they start posting more and more shit. Its an endless cycle that drains both the moderator and the poster. And then there's the ships on GC, the people who intentionally report someone or some thread a million times just because they want it deleted. And if there's anything that violates TOS....its deleted. However, I find it hard to believe that if 1 person reports 1 entire thread and it does in fact violate the TOS.....the moderators are likely to delete said thread.

Here is an example of what I am talking about:

Let's take "The Random Thread", this thread has vulgar language in it, cat fights, the ousting of DGqueen17, flamings and a million other things that violate TOS and yet it STILL remains. If myself, Lindz and Otter reported the random thread and demanded it be deleted due to 1/2 of the posts in there violating TOS....it wont be deleted. Why? Because 2/3 of GC post in it and even mods themselves LOVE it. So.....it remains. Then you had Mike Jones. It violated TOS, or at least 1/3 of it did (which is less than The Random Thread's violations). Anyways, a million people reported it because of their jealousy or out of dislike for the people posting in it and next thing you know its deleted. But I want to ask, why is it I get this feeling that rather than EDITING a few posts an entire thread is deleted? Is it because it takes up too much time to edit and its just easier to delete?

My point here is, if it violates rules...fine, it should be edited/deleted. Said post/thread went against TOS. We can't argue with that. But Puhhhhlease spread the wealth a little. Mikes Jones was like my random thread, well actually mine , otter's and lindz's, and I think pretty much all of GC knew that. And because of that I believe that envy crept in and we had yet another witch hunt on GC. The mods, in order to avoid being annoyed with reported memos, just said f--k it and deleted it since it violated TOS.

-This place has become so damn PC in the past 2 years its not even funny.

[kddani]

just curious as to who is jealous, why, and what of?

[Jen]

Maybe if GCs mods/rules/thread deletions and regular posters reports of threads bother people so much they can pack up their toys and go play on AIM or something and quit bitching about it.

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by Lindz928
I think there are quite a few posters on this board who should read this.

Thank you. I agree.

This is not a crusade. It is an effort to make the board comfortable for everyone.

There's no way that I read every thread or post. Generally I become aware of a problem because someone -- or a group of someones -- complain. I'm sure there are other threads and posts that should be deleted.

ETA, I generally try to selectively delete posts unless the thread is so far out of control that it would be useless. It does take longer to delete specific posts, but that's not a piece of the decision process for me.

[cashmoney]

Originally posted by kddani
just curious as to who is jealous, why, and what of?

I read this and I feel like I'm those little crabs in Finding Nemo that are trying to pinch the heads off fish coming out of the water treatment pipe.



Hey Hey, Hey, Hey Hey Hey.

[Xylochick216]

Originally posted by ariesrising
Maybe if GCs mods/rules/thread deletions and regular posters reports of threads bother people so much they can pack up their toys and go play on AIM or something and quit bitching about it.

AMEN! AIM or email are FABULOUS options for you guys to have your conversations. Stop whining, grow up, and talk amongst yourselves.

[Lindz928]

Originally posted by Xylochick216
AMEN! AIM or email are FABULOUS options for you guys to have your conversations. Stop whining, grow up, and talk amongst yourselves.

You could also say that if you don't like what is in a particular thread, then DON'T READ IT!!! That is just as easy.

[OtterXO]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Thank you. I agree.

This is not a crusade. It is an effort to make the board comfortable for everyone.

There's no way that I read every thread or post. Generally I become aware of a problem because someone -- or a group of someones -- complain. I'm sure there are other threads and posts that should be deleted.

ETA, I generally try to selectively delete posts unless the thread is so far out of control that it would be useless. It does take longer to delete specific posts, but that's not a piece of the decision process for me.

DeltAlum,
I appreciate your responses. I think that you ARE trying to be fair in post/thread deletion, but it's good that you see the other side as well (the sign of a good mod). Maybe you could take this whole thread as me (and anyone else who agrees with me) asking for all the mods to play fair and delete or don't delete people using the same standards across the board.
Thanks!

[OtterXO]

Originally posted by Xylochick216
AMEN! AIM or email are FABULOUS options for you guys to have your conversations. Stop whining, grow up, and talk amongst yourselves.

I'm sorry, isn't that what a message board is? For people to talk amongst themselves? Especially in the CHIT CHAT forum...LOL.

[WCUgirl]

Originally posted by OtterXO
asking for all the mods to play fair and delete or don't delete people using the same standards across the board.
Thanks!

I agree with this 110%. Sometimes I wonder if GCers (mods, too) PM their mod-buddies to get them to close a thread they simply don't like. No, I can't back that up, because, well, the threads are deleted.

Seriously though, sometimes things are done that just don't seem consistent.

[valkyrie]

I didn't read any of the threads that were recently deleted, but I have a question for those who are complaining that the standards mods use for thread deletion are not uniform. Could you please point out some threads and/or posts that you feel should have been deleted but weren't, and could you provide copies of the reports you made to the mods asking for action to be taken on such threads and/or posts?

It seems really common that when something is deleted, the deletees start pointing fingers and saying the mods play favorites or don't apply uniform standards. I would like to see evidence to back up this claim.