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Old 07-30-2005, 10:16 PM
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Girl, you aren't the only one.
I'm glad my organization only does AI in very very special circumstances. I think this whole "I'm going to rush umpteen times and then because I didn't get a bid I'm going to try and AI before I graduate" is SHADY!!!! Also it's just tacky and in poor taste.
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Old 07-30-2005, 11:37 PM
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My first question to all AI's who contact me is now "why didn't you join in college". It's funny how it seems to scare people away............
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Old 07-31-2005, 03:57 PM
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My first question to all AI's who contact me is now "why didn't you join in college". It's funny how it seems to scare people away............
You know, that is a really good question to ask. For some reason, I was never asked that, but if I had been, I would have been able to give a good answer.
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Old 07-31-2005, 06:37 PM
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You know, that is a really good question to ask. For some reason, I was never asked that, but if I had been, I would have been able to give a good answer.
Especially when the pseron being asked went to a school with a large Greek System and one of our chapters............she never did answer the question.
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Old 08-06-2005, 08:10 PM
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I'm bumping this thread, only to post the following WONDERFUL quote as I think it applies in this situation:

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Before you begin [the AI process], I suggest you stop and ask yourself a few things.

1. Why do I want to be an AI?

2. What can I contribute to an NPC org?

If you can not answer those two questions, stop dead in your tracks until you can.
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Old 09-04-2005, 06:53 PM
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I guess that you guys don't know my story, but here goes:

I have never thought about joining a sorority until my junior year in school. Before my junior year, my friends were either anti Greek or don't want to join because of fears of hazing, time, or other issues. But, when I was a sophomore I had a couple of roommates that were Greek. They were nice people and they do fun things. That's were I decided that I want to pursuit my dreams of becoming Greek.

At the beginning of my junior year, I went to interest meetings for two sororities. I was not really sure about both of them. The reason why was becasue I was not sure I was able to fit in with them, becasue I was completely different. So, I gave it some thought about rushing this time last year. And I decided to do that. I felt more at home with them. However, I was cut heavily after the first round. I was gone after Philatrophy Day. Then, I went through informal rush, and it didn't work out at the end. I still want to be Greek, and I really regret that I didn't rush earlier. I thought about rushing this year after I read anaballerina's story, but I'm afraid that I would be cut again.

So it was actually twice that I tried to get in.

If you can call me shady after that, that's fine. But that's my side of the story, and I'm sticking to it.
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Old 09-04-2005, 08:22 PM
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The reality is, the more traditional the campus, the less likely an upperclassman will receive a bid. I'm not saying it to be mean, I'm saying it to prepare you.

Alumnae initiation may be an option you wish to investigate, but it is still a mutual selection process. It isn't something you 'fall back on' because seeking undergraduate membership didn't work out for you.

And as someone pointed out earlier, you once called NPC sororities "white" sororities - do you still think of them that way? If you do, you need to ask yourself some serious questions about whether that is going to be an issue for you. If you're still thinking of it as a "white" sorority, can you still look those women in the eye and call them your sister?

If you do decide to seek membership on your campus or at the alumnae level, I wish you luck. But if it doesn't pan out, see if you can find other organizations that you can devote your time to, and make friendships that will last a lifetime.

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Old 09-07-2005, 06:10 PM
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And as someone pointed out earlier, you once called NPC sororities "white" sororities - do you still think of them that way? If you do, you need to ask yourself some serious questions about whether that is going to be an issue for you. If you're still thinking of it as a "white" sorority, can you still look those women in the eye and call them your sister?
Seriously, if you can't get past the whole NPC sorority=white sorority stereotype, then there's no real point in trying to join because you could never think of these women as "sisters". You'd never get past the point of them being "white women."

OK, so why do you want to join? For you to ever think about AI, it'd have to be about alot more than just "well I got cut 3 times in college". Is it about being a sister and having a sincere love for the organization you join and wanting to be active in their causes, OR has it become about "getting in" at this point just to say, I got in?

And for the record, I'm certainly not trying to antagonize you, I just really want you to honestly think about why you want to join.
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Old 09-07-2005, 06:23 PM
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I just wanted to say that I understand that you feel like we are kind of "jumping down on you" but if you can't answer these questions posed to you, then you aren't ready for AI.

You have to be incredibly patient with AI because it is much more complicated than FR. In college it's a mutual selection process. AI, yes you might have "chosen" the sorority because you felt a connection in college or a connection with the philanthropy. It's more about you "selling" yourself to us. Making us "want" to sponser you as a AI member. It's no longer mutual selection with a nice bid card, it's the sorority determining a "yeah" or "nay" on the PNAM's "application".

In all honesty if a PNAM came up to me and wanted information on AI or wanted me to sponser them I'd be asking all of these tough questions and probably more.

I know sororities are trying to grow and expand on AI but it is still a pretty new concept (and I mean that in the terms that publically it's been talked about for only the last decade even though some sororties have been doing AI since the 50's). A lot of sororities AI programs are run with the PNAM's being known by one of the active alums, not a PNAM contacting the sorority. Not that I'm saying the latter should 't happen b/c I feel it should, but change takes time.

I'm sorry if I sound mean or brutal but that is the reality of AI and you need to be prepared for the long process and the tough questions.
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Old 09-07-2005, 07:26 PM
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ASUADPi, alumnae initiation isn't a new concept for everyone. Alpha Phi initiated it's first alumna initiate in 1874.

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Old 09-07-2005, 07:51 PM
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ASUADPi, alumnae initiation isn't a new concept for everyone. Alpha Phi initiated it's first alumna initiate in 1874.

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What she said.

Many NPCs have been AI-ing women for over a century now.

Just because some sororities are now just grasping the concept, it's not fair to overlook the alumnae women who have been joining our organizations since the beginning.
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Old 09-07-2005, 07:56 PM
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sistermadly and otw, i stand corrected. OMG i find that so AWESOME that chapters have been doing it for so long.

[mini hijack] maybe it's because i was only initiated in 98 but i didn't know anything about AI until like 2-3 years ago. i actually met an ai at convention who was initiated in like 92 and i was like "omg". i don't think we have been doing it as long as alpha phi though[end mini hijack]


either way...


i still stand with what i said (minus me being wrong about the dates and stuff, sorry, anyone else please feel free to correct me).
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Old 09-08-2005, 09:39 AM
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Rollergirl, there's going to be a lot of change coming up when you graduate this fall. I encourage you to stick around GC, but hold off on sorority membership for a bit. Get acclimated to what's coming next post-undergrad. The transition can be a big culture shock-- take this time for YOU--- maybe join a civic organization that won't be quite so demanding of time or have multi-tiered membership requirements, get settled into your first job/prepared for grad school (whichever you are going on to), join a professional org, etc.

More than likely in your travels you will meet sorority alumnae women and see their levels of involvement in the orgs you have in common and in their sororities, if they are active as alumnae-- maybe even come to an alum social or Founders' Day event. Go slow. You may find you have a rich and fulfilling post-college life without sorority alumnae life, or you may connect with alumnae with whom you feel a mutual bond.

Don't rush it. You're on the verge of a very big step in your life-- life after college. Embrace this upcoming experience and see where it leads you.
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Old 09-09-2005, 05:02 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by adpiucf
[B]Rollergirl, there's going to be a lot of change coming up when you graduate this fall. I encourage you to stick around GC, but hold off on sorority membership for a bit. Get acclimated to what's coming next post-undergrad. The transition can be a big culture shock-- take this time for YOU--- maybe join a civic organization that won't be quite so demanding of time or have multi-tiered membership requirements, get settled into your first job/prepared for grad school (whichever you are goin
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Old 09-09-2005, 05:02 PM
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Rollergirl, there's going to be a lot of change coming up when you graduate this fall. I encourage you to stick around GC, but hold off on sorority membership for a bit. Get acclimated to what's coming next post-undergrad. The transition can be a big culture shock-- take this time for YOU--- maybe join a civic organization that won't be quite so demanding of time or have multi-tiered membership requirements, get settled into your first job/prepared for grad school (whichever you are going on to), join a professional org, etc.

More than likely in your travels you will meet sorority alumnae women and see their levels of involvement in the orgs you have in common and in their sororities, if they are active as alumnae-- maybe even come to an alum social or Founders' Day event. Go slow. You may find you have a rich and fulfilling post-college life without sorority alumnae life, or you may connect with alumnae with whom you feel a mutual bond.

Don't rush it. You're on the verge of a very big step in your life-- life after college. Embrace this upcoming experience and see where it leads you.

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When You Graduate from College, You will not be a world beater right from the Blocs, Race Term.

You will be Hired for Your background, but will be expected to relearn a whole New Process on how The Company works. All You did, is to Keep Up Study Skills in a certain area so that YOU can be trained in The Company. (Ex RH Macys Jr. Exec).

So, get your feet on the ground, get to know people, maybe look for Member Alums of ABC GLO.

AI is not an easy Process, but can be very rewarding to say the least!

Do not over extend yourself to early. You will be busy with making a living first!

1. College Prioritys=Make Grades and Graduate.

2. Job Prioritys=Learn The Job and be good at it!

3. Make $$$ to live on !

4. Feel Comfortable enough to expand into New Areas!

Easy Formula isnt it?
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