Time's flawed "100 most influential"

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Private I
Perhaps the "influential" part is supposed to mean worldwide? I would say worldwide between the two, Lebron James is better known than Lance, at least the areas I've been to.

Regardless, I believe they're both very influential.

What areas are those?

-rudey

[KSig RC]

I could imagine (and this is WAG, no time to look it up) that the average youth in the US cares more about what LeBron James has to say/sell/what he does than, say, the majority of politicos in Washington (or otherwise). Marketing influence is still influence - and I'm 90% sure that portions of the list exist just so we'll argue it like this.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by KSig RC
I could imagine (and this is WAG, no time to look it up) that the average youth in the US cares more about what LeBron James has to say/sell/what he does than, say, the majority of politicos in Washington (or otherwise). Marketing influence is still influence - and I'm 90% sure that portions of the list exist just so we'll argue it like this.

Perhaps Lebron's agent and those who market him should be on that list then

Either way, as Dani said, the list is subjective so hey them's the apples and all that.

-Rudey

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by Rudey
Perhaps Lebron's agent and those who market him should be on that list then

Either way, as Dani said, the list is subjective so hey them's the apples and all that.

-Rudey

True; I understand your counterpoints though, and that's the great thing about these lists. Many of the people are up for debate.

[hoosier]

Originally posted by KSig RC
It's not necessarily "political" influence, chief - and even then, Rush is old news. I don't know a single person of political influence who takes his ideas seriously.

I think when the Bush administration wants to get a message out, they'll send Cheney, or Mary Madelin, or sometimes even "W", to appear on Rush's show. He has a tremendously large audience, and a lot of influence (although that is not his goal).

His goal, I think, is to spread information and to let the listeners decide.

You comment is like the CBS (?) reporter who said "How did Bush get elected? I don't know anyone who voted for him."

[CSUSigEp]

Originally posted by Rudey
But how is he influential? There are a lot of very famous celebrities that are much more well known than he is domestically and internationally so I don't think it's about fame.

-Rudey

Lance Armstong is extremely influential. Go out in public and look at everyones wrists. Could Rush Limbaugh do that?

[Phasad1913]

Originally posted by hoosier

His goal, I think, is to spread information and to let the listeners decide.

bullshit.

[Coramoor]

Rush, whether you like him or not, pretty much single handedly brought conservative radio to what it is today. He is extremely influential-maybe not with you, but he definitly is.

Also...how the hell do you NOT know who Sean Hannity is? That's like saying you don't know who your own Senators or House reps are.

Private I...Lebron is not even in the same league as Lance when it comes to being an athlete. On top of that Lance is much more well known worldwide than Lebron. It's theTour de France!

[kddani]

Originally posted by Coramoor
Rush, whether you like him or not, pretty much single handedly brought conservative radio to what it is today. He is extremely influential-maybe not with you, but he definitly is.

Also...how the hell do you NOT know who Sean Hannity is? That's like saying you don't know who your own Senators or House reps are.

Private I...Lebron is not even in the same league as Lance when it comes to being an athlete. On top of that Lance is much more well known worldwide than Lebron. It's theTour de France!

But how currently influential is Rush anymore? He lost a ton of credibility. This isn't a list of who was influential 10 years ago.

Why SHOULD I know who Sean Hannity is? How can a news anchor compare to my local representatives. I have no reason to know who he is or care. He does nothing for me.

This wasn't a list of the most influential CONSERVATIVES. If so, maybe he'd have a place.

There's another world out there outside of the conservative world.

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by Coramoor
Also...how the hell do you NOT know who Sean Hannity is? That's like saying you don't know who your own Senators or House reps are.

I don't know who he is either.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by kddani
But how currently influential is Rush anymore? He lost a ton of credibility. This isn't a list of who was influential 10 years ago.

Why SHOULD I know who Sean Hannity is? How can a news anchor compare to my local representatives. I have no reason to know who he is or care. He does nothing for me.

This wasn't a list of the most influential CONSERVATIVES. If so, maybe he'd have a place.

There's another world out there outside of the conservative world.

So you do know who he is?

-Rudey

[sugar and spice]

I know who Sean Hannity is, but only because I read Al Franken.

I don't have cable, my TV is tiny, and the only things I ever watch on television are Degrassi and the occasional episode of "The O.C."

There are many, many people who prefer to get their news from less biased sources than our friends Sean or Rush or, for that matter, Al or Michael. For that reason, I think that TV pundits' spheres of influence are much smaller than some of you think. The very fact that their main audience is limited to those who watch cable television (and then further limited to those who watch 24-hour news networks, and then limited again to those who like opinion-based shows, and then limited again to -- for the most part -- conservatives and perhaps moderates) will make their audience smaller than, say, Lebron James.

I don't think Hannity's audience is nearly as big as Rush's was at his peak, and I don't think Rush has very much influence at all anymore.

[kddani]

Originally posted by Rudey
So you do know who he is?

-Rudey

as I said earlier in the thread I had to google him to find out

[Rudey]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
and I don't think Rush has very much influence at all anymore.

Why?

-Rudey

[hoosier]

Originally posted by valkyrie
I don't know who he is either.

Probably 'cause he doesn't appear on MTV or BET or Sports Center.

I hope you don't vote, or do vote with the Democrats on Wednesday.