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Old 12-23-2004, 03:22 PM
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"school officials told her before the prom not to wear the dress"

So she decided to wear it anyway, knowing full and well they had told her she would not be allowed to wear it and be admitted to the prom.

ETA: School officials have the right to set and enforce a dress code.
Just because school officials have certain powers, doesnt mean they are always right in enforcing them.

Case in point: the half dozen or so kids at some school in Missouri that got out of school suspensions for wearing shirts supporting one of their friends who got in trouble for wearing a Tshirt for a GSA. URL

I'd back the tasteless daddy's girl on this one.

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Old 12-23-2004, 03:43 PM
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Where are all the people that cry about freedoms and liberties being violated now?

Oh, wait-it's only if the freedoms and liberties they agree with that they get pissed off over if they are violated.
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:01 PM
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For those who also had trouble seeing the dress with the article:



While this is certainly not my style, and if she was told not to wear the dress, she should not have worn it, let me ask one question: if this woman had worn a hoopskirt which looked like something out of Gone With The Wind, would there have been as much controversy? Why or why not?
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:07 PM
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I'll argue that the 'stars and bars' has more to do with modern racism than historical (civil war era) racism . . .
racism is racism. the confederate flag, the confederacy and everything pertaining to had to do with race then and it has to do with it now.
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:08 PM
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Wow, that's actually a nice dress. Although I personally believe the Conferederate Flag is a racist symbol, I think she should have been allowed to wear it. Freedom of speech and that good stuff.
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:10 PM
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Since I don't know I thought I would ask:

What is so endearing about this flag that even after its modern association with racism, that people want to remember the other things it is associated with?

I don't know enough so I thought maybe someone would know.

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Old 12-23-2004, 04:16 PM
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For those who also had trouble seeing the dress with the article:



While this is certainly not my style, and if she was told not to wear the dress, she should not have worn it, let me ask one question: if this woman had worn a hoopskirt which looked like something out of Gone With The Wind, would there have been as much controversy? Why or why not?
The hoopskirt wasn't directly associated with racism. People had been wearing hoops since the 1700s! It was fashion. The flag, on the other hand, was and still is an emblem of people wishing to maintain a culture of racism (Old South) among other nasty things.

My brother is a reenactor - War Between the States - so I have to see him running around with Rebel flags. It's not so fun for me, but I don't ever try to stop him. Just like I wouldn't stop this girl for her dress. It's her right.

HOWEVER, the school administration had already told her not to wear it and she did anyway. Now, if her wearing or not wearing the dress had been a matter of her graduating, I would have been furious. But, it's JUST A DANCE! Anyway, I thought kids weren't allowed to wear inflammatory material to school?? Isn't that standard or am I just crazy?

I mean, it's someone's right to wear a white hood and robe but NOT TO SCHOOL!

And, I agree with enlightenment06 - the dress is actually kinda cute!

ETA: Do you REALLY think she was wearing it because she liked it OR perhaps because she was making a statement??
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:17 PM
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why would she be suing for defamation?
Because "defamation" was the biggest word she knew.
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:36 PM
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Where are all the people that cry about freedoms and liberties being violated now?

Oh, wait-it's only if the freedoms and liberties they agree with that they get pissed off over if they are violated.
You're kind of retarded to post that right below my post.
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:41 PM
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racism is racism. the confederate flag, the confederacy and everything pertaining to had to do with race then and it has to do with it now.
How'd your date go?

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Old 12-23-2004, 04:41 PM
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Anyway, I thought kids weren't allowed to wear inflammatory material to school?? Isn't that standard or am I just crazy?
Well, since you seem to be favoring censorship, I'll assume you're crazy.

Also: Tinker vs. Des Moines.

School administration retards violated her right to wear her dress.
Fire the bastards, give her money, case closed.
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:51 PM
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I ain't gona lie, I suck at history and I don't know much about the confederate flag. But.... the school told her not to wear it because it was offensive to some, so she definitely broke a rule. It's the same with wearing gang related clothing to school, short tiny skirts, skimpy shirts, etc. It's offensive.

I do believe in freedom of speech, but I think there's a time and a place for it.
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:52 PM
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School administration has the right to dictate their student's fashion - which they do via the school's dress code. If they told her not to wear it and she did, then she broke the rules, plain and simple.

Its no different that if a female student wore a string bikini to school (calm down guys ), and it violated the school's dress code. She should be sent home or punished.

Same thing applies here.

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ETA: Do you REALLY think she was wearing it because she liked it OR perhaps because she was making a statement??
I was thinking about this myself after I posted. I would probably not even think twice about it, if she had just "out of the blue" showed up at the prom wearing it. But the fact that she asked the school's administration WAY beforehand tells me that she knew that something may not have been right about wearing it - and after hearing their response of "no, don't wear it' , she decides to wear it anyway? Very interesting....
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:53 PM
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I ain't gona lie, I suck at history and I don't know much about the confederate flag. But.... the school told her not to wear it because it was offensive to some, so she definitely broke a rule. It's the same with wearing gang related clothing to school, short tiny skirts, skimpy shirts, etc. It's offensive.

I do believe in freedom of speech, but I think there's a time and a place for it.
Dear Miss Censorship Bitch:

Does this mean I can't wear a gay pride shirt to school because it might upset some conservative christian fuckmunch?
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Old 12-23-2004, 04:54 PM
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Its no different that if a female student wore a string bikini to school (calm down guys ), and it violates the school's dress code, then she should be sent home or punshied.
She should be sent to my place. I will take care of the punishments.

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