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Old 10-03-2004, 11:30 PM
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ETA - ktsnake, way to throw gasoline on a fire, dude.
Do you expect people to have a sense of humor on this topic?
How was my comment different from what she said about fraternities?

It was supposed to be "insightful humor". Guess I missed the mark
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Old 10-03-2004, 11:33 PM
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How was my comment different from what she said about fraternities?

It was supposed to be "insightful humor". Guess I missed the mark
It wasn't different. But file it under "T" for "two wrongs don't make a right."

I learned a long time ago that when dealing w/ extremists, of whatever POV, humor and irony don't work. Period.

It's OK - I doubt this will be a flame war.

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Old 10-03-2004, 11:35 PM
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It was supposed to be humor -- a comment that is at least equal to hers and her understanding of the other sex.

Please do not try to paint all feminists with the same brush either. There are those out there that are extreme and man-hating like this bimbo.
Thanks for the clarification. You're right I should have eta some and not all. Since the author's email is posted why not email her your opinion and encourage others to do so.
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Old 10-05-2004, 02:20 AM
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There are actually multiple "types of feminists.
Liberal believe that men and women should be equal and there should be no laws that differentiate between the two
Cultural believe that women and men are different, and they support the differences that make women "better"
Radical believe that motherhood is the root of all oppression for women and until we take away this burden, and even the names defining gender (he/she) we will live in a sexist society.
Marxist believe that capitalism is the reason behind sexism

LUCKILY.... most feminists are of the liberal type

That said, this woman probably heard or a few stories that may or may not have happened, perhaps said some things that riled up men to get a reaction, and then based their anger on her reason that it must be true, without taking into account that some people just do not like to be accused of such horrible acts.

I know there are fraternities out there that perpetuate these stereotypes... but there are also unaffliitated men who do also. There are also many sexist women, greek and independent.
She should have researched her article better, backed things with more facts, and not used such general terms. If there was any truth to her clamis she has taken away their credibility.
Now, anyone who reads this is inclined to believe she just hates Greek men and was looking for a reaction.....
This is definitely not the person we need out there fighting for the reduction of rape and sexual harrassment.
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Old 10-05-2004, 08:51 AM
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The best part of the article was where she was confronted with the numbers -- the vast majority of sexual harassment cases were reported in the DORMS.

She then replied that these incedents were still because of fraternities.
I really think this Whitney chick got burned by a fraternity guy and is using this sad excuse to get back at him. The fact that she believes fraternities are the cause of EVERY sexual harassment case is a dead giveaway. And it is possible for a woman to be sexually assaulted at a fraternity house by someone not in that fraternity. It's happened before....
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Old 10-05-2004, 09:25 AM
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I really think this Whitney chick got burned by a fraternity guy and is using this sad excuse to get back at him. The fact that she believes fraternities are the cause of EVERY sexual harassment case is a dead giveaway. And it is possible for a woman to be sexually assaulted at a fraternity house by someone not in that fraternity. It's happened before....
The article is fairly unclear. It starts off by setting her viewpoint up as legitimate and then proceeds to show how there is no possible way that this chick has her stuff together.

If I was lazy and only read the first half, I'd be wanting to end Greek Life or something.
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Old 10-05-2004, 11:33 AM
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Neonsparkles,

I don't think most feminists are of the "liberal" type. Instead, we are mostly a combination of "liberal" and "cultural", especially those of us who aren't going to admit to being feminists. Just my opinion.
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Old 10-05-2004, 12:15 PM
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I think she's a man-hating lesbian probably.

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