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Kevin 10-03-2004 06:35 PM

Feminist Attacks Fraternities at UNH
 
Verdict is in on UNH fraternities

By Genevieve Giambanco
ggiambanco@seacoastonline.com

DURHAM - University of New Hampshire students agreed that fraternities on campus have a general reputation of fostering inappropriate sexual behavior. On whether that reputation is deserved, their reactions were mixed.

The issue of sexual assault and harassment at UNH fraternities received attention recently after a student received a death threat after condemning fraternity members for committing sexual assault in an opinion piece she wrote in UNH�s student newspaper.

The student, Whitney Williams, is also a member of the Feminist Action League on campus. The league is not affiliated with UNH.

In an interview with the Portsmouth Herald this past week, Williams said she wrote the column on behalf of herself and "all women, specifically college women."

In Williams� opinion piece, "Rape and other amusing trifles," that appeared Sept. 24 in The New Hampshire, she wrote, "Women are raped and sexually coerced there regularly. Frat boys are not our friends. They live like they are entitled to our bodies. ... They are willing to trick us, drug us, coerce us into sexual acts, gang-rape us, rape us, otherwise prey on us."

This past week, Williams received a number of e-mails that harshly criticized her column. The pornographic death threat was among her e-mails and she has pressed charges.

Williams said the hostile reaction she received can be taken as a sign she has spoken the truth.

"It hit a nerve," she said. "I think that needs to be examined more."

Students on campus were asked this past week whether UNH fraternities have a reputation for sexist behavior, sexual assault and harassment.

"There wouldn�t be a reputation if there hadn�t been cases in the past," said junior Laurel Gaudet.

"I personally think that they don�t try very hard to negate that image," commented senior Andrew Zarbo.

Sophomore Amanda Lang said some individual fraternity houses merit this reputation, but most do not.

"There are some (fraternity houses) that support that reputation," she said.

Alpha Phi sorority member Sarah Coleman said UNH fraternities are trying to prevent sexual harassment and assault from occurring.

"I know that they�re actually trying to be responsible," she said.

Students also commented on whether they thought sexual assault and harassment were more likely to happen at a fraternity.

"I think it provides a place for it to happen, and even if it�s not a fraternity brother, it could happen there," said sophomore Meredith Holt.

Students were also asked if they thought the fraternity community fosters a sexist environment where women are objectified.

Gaudet said she and her friends do not hang out at fraternities, and therefore didn�t have enough experience to comment.

"I�ve never been that close to it, so I wouldn�t know," she said.

Zarbo said he has been to UNH fraternity parties and has known some fraternity members.

"I don�t think most of them respect women," he said about UNH fraternity brothers.

Only those with strong characters do not treat and think of women as objects, he said.

Lang said a sexist environment where harassment and assault happen more often depends on the individual fraternity.

Some fraternities are sexist, she said, "but you could go to a different one and be in a completely different environment where you do feel safe."

"At the majority of the frats, I would feel safe," Lang said.

She said her fraternity brother friends look out for their women friends.

"They will honestly tell you, �don�t go to that frat, that�s a sketchy frat,�" she said.

Junior Ashley Sperber said she has seen sexual harassment and sexist behavior within fraternities at other colleges, "but not so much on (the UNH) campus."

Asked if sexist thinking and behavior at fraternities on campus fosters more rape and sexual harassment, junior Matt Garneau said he believes sexual assault and harassment are more likely to happen at a fraternity party.

The fraternity community is a group on campus that has the biggest parties and those parties receive the most exposure; many women go to them, Garneau said.

"It�s more likely to happen as opposed to a smaller party with women and college girls," he said.

"I would say that it would be worse in a fraternity," said freshman Ben Amirault.

When three fraternities were contacted on whether the houses foster inappropriate sexual behavior, members from Alpha Tau Omega and Sigma Beta gave no comment, and Sigma Nu�s representative was unavailable for comment.

Student Body Vice President and Sigma Nu brother Charles Knuth said he disagreed that fraternities foster a culture and environment that encourage sexual assault.

"Based on my personal experience, I find that statement to be untrue," he said.

His three years at the university and his friendships with women are reasons he arrived at this conclusion, he said.

"I feel sad that this is how Whitney perceives the Greek community and the system in general," he said.

The Sexual Harassment and Rape Prevention Program (SHARPP) on campus took reports of sexual assault with penetration, sexual assault or attempted sexual assault from 51 accusers from July 2003 to June 2004.

"Our numbers show that of the 51 sexual assaults, only three are reported to have occurred at Greek (fraternity) houses," said SHARPP program director Mary Mayhew. "The majority of cases reported to us occurred in residence halls, off campus, at home or work, both in New Hampshire and out of state,"

Mayhew also noted many sexual assaults likely go unreported.

In response to SHARPP�s statistics, columnist Williams said although most of the cases were reportedly committed outside the Greek system, she believes the assaults were influenced by fraternities on campus being looked up to by the UNH community.

Fraternity brothers in general think they are a special group entitled to money, power, political careers and women as objects, Williams contends.

"Those are the things that they feel they are entitled to - (that they are) respected community members is a huge problem," she said.

Steve Pappajohn, coordinator for Greek affairs, said the fraternity community does have a negative reputation.

"We are a higher risk group" for sexual violence and harassment," he acknowledged.

Given that, he said, fraternity members are actively trying to combat sexual assault and harassment.

"I think we�re doing more programming, prevention and awareness training than any other large recognized group on campus," Pappajohn said.

James 10-03-2004 06:41 PM

How odd. The SHARRP PRgram says that Greeks are not beoing overly reported for sexual assulat etc. but the genius Greek Advisor says they are a high risk group for it?

And Whitney Williams. Can we say uptight with a chip on her shoulder about men? My goodness, is feminism about man-hating?

Kevin 10-03-2004 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by James

And Whitney Williams. Can we say uptight with a chip on her shoulder about men? My goodness, is feminism about man-hating?

She really needs to get laid.

I'm glad my organization has so much money and political power. Wish they'd hook me up.

PhiPsiRuss 10-03-2004 06:52 PM

Someone Needs Prozac
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
She really needs to get laid.
Either that or she needs...


















http://tinypic.com/b963t

valkyrie 10-03-2004 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
She really needs to get laid.

:rolleyes:

Taualumna 10-03-2004 07:00 PM

I think Whitney should have said that INDIVIDUAL MEN in fraternities are sexist. It's not fair to say that ABC is sexist just because x number of the brothers are. Besides, what about sororities? Why is it that guys get all the bad rap when some girls don't exactly treat guys that well either?

Munchkin03 10-03-2004 07:04 PM

Re: Someone Needs Prozac
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
Either that or she needs...


















http://tinypic.com/b963t

Please, please, please do not joke about people taking Prozac. NOT FUNNY.

Kevin 10-03-2004 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taualumna
I think Whitney should have said that INDIVIDUAL MEN in fraternities are sexist. It's not fair to say that ABC is sexist just because x number of the brothers are. Besides, what about sororities? Why is it that guys get all the bad rap when some girls don't exactly treat guys that well either?
The best part of the article was where she was confronted with the numbers -- the vast majority of sexual harassment cases were reported in the DORMS.

She then replied that these incedents were still because of fraternities.

She's absolutely talking out of her ass. She should feel ashamed but I doubt that she does.

I know that fraternities that promote that type of behavior exist. They exist on my campus. However, we have other chapters such as mine that stress ettiquette. Heck, a brother gets fined if he doesn't stand when a lady enters a room he's in at our chapter house.

Taualumna 10-03-2004 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
Heck, a brother gets fined if he doesn't stand when a lady enters a room he's in at our chapter house.
Wow!! I'm glad to hear that old fashioned gentlemen still exist. :)

adduncan 10-03-2004 08:17 PM

Articles (and those who write them) like this are the reason why the feminist movement has lost credibility.

Any feminists out there who think the world should pay attention to their cause, straighten out people like Whitney Williams first, then you're more likely to get a positive response.

--add

ETA - ktsnake, way to throw gasoline on a fire, dude.
Do you expect people to have a sense of humor on this topic?

Sistermadly 10-03-2004 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
She really needs to get laid.

And after comments like this, people wonder why some feminists have trouble with men's fraternities.

wrigley 10-03-2004 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
She really needs to get laid.
.

This comment was out of line. PhiPsiRuss, the picture of Prozac was just as bad. James, you're no better than she is.

Yes she was wrong to paint all fraternities with the same brush. You admitted yourself that there are a more than a few bad apples out there. Keep in mind that most rapes whether they happen on or off campus often go unreported. Feminists don't hate all men just the ones who don't respect women.

Taualumna 10-03-2004 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wrigley
This comment was out of line. PhiPsiRuss, the picture of Prozac was just as bad. James, you're no better than she is.

Yes she was wrong to paint all fraternities with the same brush. You admitted yourself that there are a more than a few bad apples out there. Keep in mind that most rapes whether they happen on or off campus often go unreported. Feminists don't hate all men just the ones who don't respect women.

Define "respect". While most people will agree that beating someone up, calling them names, etc is not respect, there are other points that can be open to debate. I like old fashioned guys who treat women like ladies. Some women might see it as being "disrespectul".

wrigley 10-03-2004 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taualumna
Define "respect". While most people will agree that beating someone up, calling them names, etc is not respect, there are other points that can be open to debate. I like old fashioned guys who treat women like ladies. Some women might see it as being "disrespectul".
Basically for me respect means treat people the way you would like to be treated. Yes and it does include not abusing, whether it's done to a man or a woman, physically, mentally, and emotionally.I didn't want to quote the bible line because I'd screw it up.

Your parameters for what you call old-fashioned treatment of men and women appear to be naive from what I've read in previous posts of yours. Common courtesy and proper etiquette have evolved to accomodate the changing times and has never gone out of style.

Kevin 10-03-2004 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wrigley
This comment was out of line. PhiPsiRuss, the picture of Prozac was just as bad. James, you're no better than she is.

Yes she was wrong to paint all fraternities with the same brush. You admitted yourself that there are a more than a few bad apples out there. Keep in mind that most rapes whether they happen on or off campus often go unreported. Feminists don't hate all men just the ones who don't respect women.

It was supposed to be humor -- a comment that is at least equal to hers and her understanding of the other sex.

Please do not try to paint all feminists with the same brush either. There are those out there that are extreme and man-hating like this bimbo.


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