Ole Miss Rush - Page 2

IvySpice · #16 10-01-2004, 08:21 PM

I'm sure DG at Ole Miss knows what is best for its chapter's reputation, but I sure feel bad for those bidless girls. If they were eligible for snaps, we know they didn't suicide. It's a real shame that there was room for them in the system but the sorority said no. I can't help wondering if "lowering their standards" enough to take them would really have hurt the chapter the way I'm sure the exclusion from all sororities is hurting the girls; it's hard to believe that they're such losers or troublemakers that they couldn't find a niche in a 273-member chapter. From everything I hear, it sounds like that's not an easy campus to be bidless at.

honeychile · #17 10-01-2004, 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by chi0samford01
FSUZeta:
Samford is an awesome school and I loved the 3 years I spent there. I am not sure how recruitment went for them there this year, but I need to email my chapter and find out. I haven't gotten around to doing it yet.
There are a lot of people from FL who go to Samford, and Zeta has a really strong chapter there. They have a great Greek system with about 50% of the student body involved. There are 5 sororities

Chi Omega (My chapter)
Zeta Tau Alpha
Phi Mu
Alpha Delta Pi
Alpha Omicron Pi

Plus the school is gorgeous and Birmingham totally rocks as a city. I am now married and living in VA but I took my husband to B'ham this summer to see Samford (he's from PA) and he thought it was awesome and a beautiful campus! (This coming from a Duke grad makes me proud!) Anyway have her check it out because I completely miss it!

If your daughter has any questions about Samford, I'd be happy to email her about it. I loved it! Just let me know!

Out of curiosity, the new Miss America is a graduate of Samford (as you probably know!). Was she a member of any GLO?

CarolinaDG · #18 10-02-2004, 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by IvySpice
I'm sure DG at Ole Miss knows what is best for its chapter's reputation, but I sure feel bad for those bidless girls. If they were eligible for snaps, we know they didn't suicide. It's a real shame that there was room for them in the system but the sorority said no. I can't help wondering if "lowering their standards" enough to take them would really have hurt the chapter the way I'm sure the exclusion from all sororities is hurting the girls; it's hard to believe that they're such losers or troublemakers that they couldn't find a niche in a 273-member chapter. From everything I hear, it sounds like that's not an easy campus to be bidless at.

I think that's a little harsh. I've never actually visited to this chapter, but in all four years as a Delta Gamma, I've heard a lot about it. It is a LEGENDARY chapter, and LEGENDARY house. It is practically our Alpha chapter, since our Alpha chapter closed and this chapter's in Oxford. Obviously, I can't go into too much on here, but I completely agree with their decision, because if there were 75 girls who met their standards, I don't think taking 5 more just to make quota was necessary. Especially since, from what I've heard, their standards are HIGH.

MSKKG · #19 10-02-2004, 07:04 PM

Not that I'm questioning DG's decision not to snap bid, but when you consider that the PNMs that are invited to Pref were there because the chapter understood they could be a new member the next day, the decision does appear to be a little shortsighted. That might seem a little simplistic, but I can't imagine not taking the full allotment allowed if at all possible. However, I doubt that 5 fewer members will make a difference in the long run, but I can't help thinking like IvySpice that there could have been room for a couple more in the new member class. I'm glad DG is pleased with how recruitment turned out for them--I guess in the end, that's all that matters.

CarolinaDG, the DG chapter at Ole Miss is a wonderful chapter, so all that you have heard is true.

DeltaBetaBaby · #20 10-02-2004, 11:46 PM

Nothing says they had to have been at DG's pref to be snapped. For all we know, these are girls that DG released first round.

PiPhiJulie · #21 10-03-2004, 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by IvySpice
I'm sure DG at Ole Miss knows what is best for its chapter's reputation, but I sure feel bad for those bidless girls. If they were eligible for snaps, we know they didn't suicide. It's a real shame that there was room for them in the system but the sorority said no. I can't help wondering if "lowering their standards" enough to take them would really have hurt the chapter the way I'm sure the exclusion from all sororities is hurting the girls; it's hard to believe that they're such losers or troublemakers that they couldn't find a niche in a 273-member chapter. From everything I hear, it sounds like that's not an easy campus to be bidless at.

I have to say I totally understand this viewpoint...When I rushed at Ole Miss in 2001 a very good friend of mine did not get a bid. She is a wonderful person and would have been a great sister. However what hurt her was that she did not have recs for all the sororities and her GPA was just above a 2.5 (the minimum).

IvySpice · #22 10-03-2004, 03:11 PM

As I stressed before, I don't doubt that the Ole Miss DG's know what is best for their chapter. The problem is that the panhellenic quota system is based on the assumption that chapters will take quota if they can, and that when chapters don't meet quota, it's because girls weren't willing to pledge there. If one chapter _chooses_ not to take quota, effectively shrinking the size of the Panhellenic new member class, other chapters are still forbidden to take the extra girls, and the effect is the same as if quota had been miscalculated based on too few PNMs. Maybe a good solution would be allowing the other chapters to go further over quota to take the unsnapped girls if the one chapter with space for them declines to use it. That way the elite chapter can stick to its standards without decreasing the number of spots available in the system as a whole, and it wouldn't raise the usual concerns about monster chapters taking over the rest by going over quota -- obviously only a very strong and confident chapter would deliberately take a smaller pledge class.

hottytoddy · #23 10-03-2004, 09:28 PM

I still think even if every chapter were given the option of taking those girls no one would do it. All of the houses there are confident and strong. And they would just be giving girls bids just to give them out. They obviously felt strong enough about not inviting those girls back in previous rounds.... or didn't think they were a good fit for their chapter.

chi0samford01 · #24 10-04-2004, 11:38 AM

honeychile:
Miss America went to UVA her freshman year on a volleyball scholarship and then transfered to Samford as a sophomore. She was not in a sorority at Samford, but I've heard that she was in sorority at UVA, I just don't know which one. I am an advisor for Chi Omega at UVA and I do know that she wasn't a Chi-O. After that I'm not sure. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.