Racial Profiling

[Rudey]

Originally posted by _Opi_
Yeah, read a book about racial profiling.

I would recommend "Driving while Black" by Kenneth Meeks. It'll explain it to yah real nice.

Really? So that book examines racial profiling in different countries and does some sort of analysis?

-Rudey

[_Opi_]

Actually it talks about racial profiling here and gives you lots of stats about it. That is emprical proof other than my story.

Or talk to ex-custom agents, and they'll tell you exactly how they racially profile people.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by _Opi_
Actually it talks about racial profiling here and gives you lots of stats about it. That is emprical proof other than my story.

Or talk to ex-custom agents, and they'll tell you exactly how they racially profile people.

Sometimes it's difficult to read simple things, but, again, does it compare America to other countries or not?? Simple question.

-Rudey

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by _Opi_
DeltaAlum,

Actually Americans do it in a more visible manner. I'll give you an example:

Understand, but this was pretty obvious, too. The way it worked on most of the trip was that the tour guide took all of the passports into the frontier checkpoint while we all stayed on the bus, the border folks looked at them and we went on our way.

This started out the same way, but when the Swiss border police (whatever they're called) saw the Vietnamese looking names on the passports, two of them borded the bus and questioned the family at some length. They were actually pretty rude.

Maybe the NVA and VC didn't buy enough Swiss Army Knives.

[madmax]

I am for profiling. The cops are just targeting the criminal element.

[TheEpitome1920]

Originally posted by madmax
I am for profiling. The cops are just targeting the criminal element.

And that element is...

[Bamboozled]

Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
And that element is...

Exactly. There are murderers, rapists, terrorists, drug dealers, etc... of every race. How do you determine who should be profiled?

[Jill1228]

Consider yourself lucky! I have gotten pulled over and/or questioned more by Canadian customs (there is this one chick who is all up in my grill, asking me questions about my family and everything)...it got to the point where I take another border crossing if I am coming home from work after the NEXUS lane is closed

(I was like "damn, you ain't nevah seen a Black woman before?")

Coming into the US, they wave me on thru, no problem

Originally posted by _Opi_
I have never gotten pulled over when going back to Canada, not once. And I go every weekend.

Also, racial profiling was all the rage before Sept. 11, and it was the young A.A. males.

[TheEpitome1920]

Originally posted by Jill1228

(I was like "damn, you ain't nevah seen a Black woman before?")

You'd be surprised how many people truly never have,lol. Poor babies...

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by Jill1228
Consider yourself lucky! I have gotten pulled over and/or questioned more by Canadian customs (there is this one chick who is all up in my grill, asking me questions about my family and everything)...it got to the point where I take another border crossing if I am coming home from work after the NEXUS lane is closed

(I was like "damn, you ain't nevah seen a Black woman before?")

Coming into the US, they wave me on thru, no problem

No, Canadian customs agents are all hard asses and enjoy giving people a hard time. You should hear the story my dad and uncle tell when they tried to bring my uncles boat across in Canada.
The crazy lady would even let them use her pen!
When I was coming home, the Canadian agent was such an ass, I wanted to shout out the window "Would it kill you to crack a smile?" Geez!

The U.S agent when I went to Ohio 2 weekends ago was very nice and even made sure we had the proper directions.

As much as I hate to say this, always expect problems from the Canadian customs agents.

[DeltAlum]

It's been my experience (hardly a scientific survey here) that Customs Agents tend to be nastier to their own countrypersons. I generally find that when I'm visiting another country, the Customs people are nicer to me when I enter a foreign country than are US Agents when I return.

I have a theory on that, but no basis in fact, so I won't even mention it.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
No, Canadian customs agents are all hard asses and enjoy giving people a hard time. You should hear the story my dad and uncle tell when they tried to bring my uncles boat across in Canada.
The crazy lady would even let them use her pen!
When I was coming home, the Canadian agent was such an ass, I wanted to shout out the window "Would it kill you to crack a smile?" Geez!

The U.S agent when I went to Ohio 2 weekends ago was very nice and even made sure we had the proper directions.

As much as I hate to say this, always expect problems from the Canadian customs agents.

Actually the male agents aren't all that bad. It's the women that are into giving people a hard time.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Actually the male agents aren't all that bad. It's the women that are into giving people a hard time.

I find it humorous that while we are speaking about the ills of racial profiling you are engaging in sexual profiling.

[Pike1483]

I'm not for racial profiling in general, but I wouldn't mind customs and airlines profiling people who are citizens of countries that sponsor terrorism. Not US citizens of Arab descent, but if somebody is a citizen of Libya for instance, search his ass. That just makes since.

[Pike1483]

Also, what are some of y'alls suggestions for airline/border safety? Should all searches be random? Should every person be searched (more so than standard metal detectors)? Is it ever considered not racial profiling when an Arab gets searched?