morning after pill - Page 2

Munchkin03 · #16 12-17-2003, 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by mu_agd
i'm not quite understanding how you can group the two together. one is taking a higher dosage of birth control when you think there is a chance of getting pregnant up to 72 hours after having sex. with the other, you know you are pregnant and are getting an abortion. with holly's law, the girl didn't go back for a checkup, like should have been done.. i don't know who's fault that is and am not going to place blame.

I don't understand this either, and like Aggie AXO said, if all of the medications whose use has resulted in someone's death--we wouldn't even have orange-flavored kiddie asprin on the shelves. For a story like Holly's, you have a thousand stories of women who, were able to take care of a private manner without an invasive procedure quickly.

Hootie, if you know the difference between the two, why did you make a link to the Holly's Law thread saying, "Now they want a law against it," when RU-486/mifepristone wasn't even being discussed? That would imply to the reader--much like I did--that you were confusing the two.

Since there is a separate thread relating to the confusion and propaganda surrounding RU-486, let's keep this one related to the morning-after pill.

mullet81 · #17 12-17-2003, 12:05 PM

i know i was confused about the differences between the morning after pill and RU-486/mifepristone - i thought they were the same thing - so Munchkin, thank you very much for enlightening me!!

On that note - I think the morning after pill should be available over the counter for all of the reasons people have mentioned already. It will only work up to 72 hours after unprotected sex - most girls that are extremely promiscious wouldn't worry about being pregnant until they showed signs of it - which is way longer than 72 hours - and then they would just go get an abortion. Unprotected sex is a way of life. But accidents happen, bad decisions are made, and having this pill available for people is necessary.

dzrose93 · #18 12-17-2003, 12:17 PM

I think in some instances that it may increase promiscuity among females who view it as just another form of birth control. However, if the price for the morning-after pills are the same over the counter as they are right now (around $30), then the expense alone may keep usage down. I just can't see someone forking over $30 on a regular basis for it -- most people don't have that kind of cash to throw around constantly. It adds up after awhile.

It's a tough call to make. I'm pro-choice (btw, I don't know anyone who is pro-abortion), and part of me says that this could be very helpful for women who find themselves in a difficult situation. However, I would hate to see it abused by someone who is just too lazy to use regular forms of birth control. But I guess those same people can abuse it now even though it's not over the counter. Like I said, tough call.

sugar and spice · #19 12-17-2003, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by mullet81

On that note - I think the morning after pill should be available over the counter for all of the reasons people have mentioned already. It will only work up to 72 hours after unprotected sex - most girls that are extremely promiscious wouldn't worry about being pregnant until they showed signs of it - which is way longer than 72 hours - and then they would just go get an abortion. Unprotected sex is a way of life. But accidents happen, bad decisions are made, and having this pill available for people is necessary.

Ditto this.

Many gynecologists estimate that making the morning-after pill over the counter will cut the number of abortions in this country in HALF.

That alone is enough reason for me to endorse it.

Love_Spell_6 · #20 12-17-2003, 01:00 PM

I definitely think this will lead to more promiscuity...and for some women this pill will replace birth control...but if someone wants to use it....it's their choice.

I also believe that down the line, the ramifications of this pill on a woman's reproductive system (or health in general) will be negative when the pill is abused (and it will be by some women).

lovelyivy84 · #21 12-17-2003, 01:20 PM

Love_Spell_06 I know I rarely agree with you politically and that's fine, but in this instance I really take exception to your statement about 'loose' women.

Sometimes condoms fail. Sometimes accidents happen. Making a mistake does not make someone 'loose' and I think that most women in this situation are already under enough stress and don't need to be judged by us.

As to the pill, I agree with previous posters. The fact that some women will abuse it doesn't mean that it shouldn't be OTC. They will continue to abuse it regardless of whether it is readily available or not, they'll just go to the doctor and do it instead. Women who are responsible will not be LESS responsible because of this- no one in their right mind would put their body through that needlessly. I don't think it will make much of a difference to the MINORITY of women who use abortion/ morning after pills as birth control.

Intense1920 · #22 12-17-2003, 01:22 PM

I was watching the news when they were talking about this last night. I'm not sure where I stand on it. It's a good and bad thing. Personally, I'd rather people utilize a consistent birth control plan instead of just looking for a quick fix after the fact. I never would have thought it would end up in stores though since it started off being part of the rape kit.

Love_Spell_6 · #23 12-17-2003, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by lovelyivy84
Love_Spell_06 I know I rarely agree with you politically and that's fine, but in this instance I really take exception to your statement about 'loose' women.

well you're entitled to your opinion...and i to mine

Lil' Hannah · #24 12-17-2003, 01:25 PM

Whoa whoa whoa...the morning after pill does not equal abortion. Can we please stop equating the two? Unprotected sex does not always result in pregnancy. Who's to say that a woman taking the morning after pill is definitely insuring that a fertilized egg isn't implanting? It could be an unfertilized egg. There might not even be an egg. Please stop equating a morning after pill to abortion. Thank you.

lovelyivy84 · #25 12-17-2003, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
well you're entitled to your opinion...and i to mine

Yes but I dont think we're entitled to be disrespectful of others.

But then again that's my opinion. I like to respect everyone.

ETA: until they prove they don't deserve it.

Love_Spell_6 · #26 12-17-2003, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by lovelyivy84
Yes but I dont think we're entitled to be disrespectful of others.

But then again that's my opinion. I like to respect everyone.

what's disrespectful?? if you're loose, you're loose!

lovelyivy84 · #27 12-17-2003, 01:34 PM

A couple of years back I would have used this space to explain, in detail, why your statement was disrespectful to women stuck in a terrible situation that neither you or I have any business judging, but forget it.

If you really don't see it, then that's great.

mullet81 · #28 12-17-2003, 01:36 PM

big props to lovelyivy84 for realizing that some people will never get it and instead will live in ignorance

mu_agd · #29 12-17-2003, 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
what's disrespectful?? if you're loose, you're loose!

and if a condom breaks, are they still loose?

Love_Spell_6 · #30 12-17-2003, 01:41 PM

Sweetie u read my posts and take out of them what u want. If You don't know what a loose woman is and why she would be happy about a morning after pill...then I'm not going to explain that to you either. You're on a tangent that I am not even referring to in my post.

Awww...I'm living in ignorance so says mullet81...guess I'll go and be sad now

To say someone is living in ignorance because they either see things different or don't agree with you is in and of itself IGNORANT!