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Old 10-09-2003, 09:23 PM
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Knicks just signed Mutombo to a 2 year deal.

Gotta love their pursuit of fragile big men. He and McDyess could form an "All IR" team
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Old 10-09-2003, 09:26 PM
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Knicks just signed Mutombo to a 2 year deal.

Gotta love their pursuit of fragile big men. He and McDyess could form an "All IR" team
Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Jean Jacque Wamutombo, who is about 37, is good but he may be past his prime now. Then again, the centres in the East aren't the strongest lot.

The West centres are good, but I repeat, the MVP, Tim Duncan, should try to play some centre against the Diesel.
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Old 10-15-2003, 06:09 PM
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Post TTT/Shaq doesn't dig the Kobester

SHERIDAN on basketball: Kobe-less Lakers at ease in San Diego

As far as I'm concerned, Shaq and Kobe probably need each other to win. But this is an intriguing story...

By CHRIS SHERIDAN, AP Basketball Writer
October 15, 2003
SAN DIEGO (AP) -- Shaquille O'Neal was in a chatty mood, neither mumbling nor meowing as he sat in a sweltering locker room and said so much with what he did not say.

Asked why he was sitting out with a sore left heel, O'Neal replied: "I want to be right for Derek, Karl and Gary.''

Notice a name missing there?

O'Neal's omission of Kobe Bryant was not a mistake. He repeated that quote again, giving unspoken insight into the feelings being felt inside a locker room that seemed at ease Tuesday night without Bryant around.

One can only wonder: Is O'Neal feeling some sort of perverse pleasure in seeing his superstar teammate's life in turmoil as he defends himself against a rape allegation in Colorado?

O'Neal and Bryant have never been close during their seven years together, their relationship ranging from icy at its worst to tepid at its best.


O'Neal is always capable of taking a veiled shot at Bryant, and this was a sequel of sorts to his pronouncement on the first day of camp that "the full team IS here'' when Bryant failed to report because he was "under the weather.''

O'Neal sat at his locker Tuesday wearing a garish red and white sweat suit, with one new teammate -- Gary Payton -- listening in from his left, and another -- Karl Malone -- eventually plopping down in the seat to his right.

That threesome has a combined 42 years of NBA experience, and the trio was talkative on a night when Bryant did not travel with the team for two reasons -- a sore knee would have kept him from playing, and a judge in Colorado had mandated his presence Wednesday at Part II of his preliminary hearing.

"Didn't want him here,'' coach Phil Jackson said. "I know he'd be a distraction.''

O'Neal switched to an all-black ensemble and watched from the bench as Payton, Malone and the rest of his supporting cast lost 104-86 to the Phoenix Suns before a sellout crowd of 13,144 that included legions of fans wearing Lakers jerseys -- and yes, some of them were clad in Bryant's No. 8.

The Laker Girls made the two-hour trip south, as did longtime public address announcer Lawrence Tanter.

Bryant did not, and he may not be in uniform Thursday night, either, when the Lakers play at the Staples Center against rookie LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers. Bryant's first game could be Friday against Phoenix or Sunday against the Cavs, Jackson said.

One byproduct of the Kobe waiting game is the mood-measuring around a team with an inner dynamic that is markedly different from a year ago.

Gone are three of last year's part-time starters, Robert Horry, Mark Madsen and Samaki Walker, replaced by an assortment of the very old (in NBA terms) and very young.

The presence of Malone, 40, Payton, 35, Horace Grant, 38, O'Neal, 31, and Bryon Russell, 32, gives the room an old feel. There are eight rookies and second-year players, with Devean George and Slava Medvedenko the only ones with more than one and less than seven years of NBA experience.

It's been more than two weeks since the team assembled in Honolulu, and the players are growing accustomed to the circus atmosphere that surrounds them to varying degrees on different days.

When the news is Kobe-driven, everyone in the organization has to deal with added and unwanted attention. O'Neal has been answering "Meow'' to most questions concerning Bryant -- the big fella's slang for "CAT'' or "can't answer that.''

With Bryant away, the unease was temporarily absent.

Payton gabbed with reporters about what he's seen in early preseason games (he chided Keith Van Horn for his eight turnovers in Sunday's Spurs-Knicks game), Malone described the huge sense of loss he's felt since the death of his mother last summer, while O'Neal discussed his weight (339 pounds as of Monday) and the type of money he'd want if he gets another three-year contract extension ("Put it this way, I won't take a BMW from somebody when I know I can get a Maybach from someone else.'' ).

But Shaq sent a message, too, by omitting Bryant from the list of those he's playing for -- a list that included only Derek Fisher, Malone and Payton.

It may have spoke volumes about what's being felt inside the team.
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Old 10-15-2003, 09:10 PM
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Old 10-15-2003, 09:40 PM
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they were awesome in the playoffs last year. they only lost one game...

You must be just trying to get me started champ, and we were getting along so amicably.

Um, pretty sure your boys lost 4 games.

To who? Who was that again that won the whole damn deal? oh yeah, the SPURS!

The road to the NBA Championship goes through San Antonio. While the Lakers used the off-season to get older and in legal trouble, the Spurs added youth and consistency with the additions of Rasho Nesterovic, Ron Mercer, and Hedo TurkeyGlue. With the addition of Horry off the bench, a much more rested Horry than the lakers had last year might i add, the Spurs will once again be one of the most complete teams, starters and bench included in the NBA.

Duncan will not play center against Shaq, because he is not a center, the man is a PF. One of the reasons he stayed in SA instead of bolting to Orlando a couple years ago was the assurance of Pop that he would remain a forward and the team wouldn't push him to center.

Parker
Manu
Rasho
Duncan
Rose.

I'm not predicting repeat YET...but the Spurs will again win the Midwest and reach the WCF.

Kitso
KS 361 more years the fakers added to their bench, that's really gonna help when the Spurs youngsters are running circles around em late in the playoffs

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Old 10-15-2003, 10:28 PM
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You must be just trying to get me started champ, and we were getting along so amicably.

Um, pretty sure your boys lost 4 games.

To who? Who was that again that won the whole damn deal? oh yeah, the SPURS!

The road to the NBA Championship goes through San Antonio. While the Lakers used the off-season to get older and in legal trouble, the Spurs added youth and consistency with the additions of Rasho Nesterovic, Ron Mercer, and Hedo TurkeyGlue. With the addition of Horry off the bench, a much more rested Horry than the lakers had last year might i add, the Spurs will once again be one of the most complete teams, starters and bench included in the NBA.

Duncan will not play center against Shaq, because he is not a center, the man is a PF. One of the reasons he stayed in SA instead of bolting to Orlando a couple years ago was the assurance of Pop that he would remain a forward and the team wouldn't push him to center.

Parker
Manu
Rasho
Duncan
Rose.

I'm not predicting repeat YET...but the Spurs will again win the Midwest and reach the WCF.

Kitso
KS 361 more years the fakers added to their bench, that's really gonna help when the Spurs youngsters are running circles around em late in the playoffs

i was talkin about the 2001 championship i think. when they went 15-1 in the playoffs.

spurs got lucky this year. they wont be any good with robinsons big ass in the middle anymore

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Old 10-16-2003, 12:46 AM
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i was talkin about the 2001 championship i think. when they went 15-1 in the playoffs.

spurs got lucky this year. they wont be any good with robinsons big ass in the middle anymore

Robinson hasn't been a force since maybe 95-96.

As long as the Spurs still have Timmy D, Parker, Manu and Bowen i like their chances.

Rasho brings about the same offensive and defensive stats as robinson had last year. He's not replacing D-Rob the MVP, he's replacing the David Robinson at the end of his career. Rasho's still young and with time to develop and learn Pop's offense he can be a force.

It's just a shame that we never got to see a D-Rob at the top of his game play with Timmy at the top of his. THAT would have been amazing.

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