UC vs Cal State systems?

[MattUMASSD]

whats the best uc to go to for graduate school in business?

[CutiePie2000]

Originally posted by MattUMASSD
whats the best uc to go to for graduate school in business?

You need to consult the rankings in business magazines, etc. At last check, I would say it is: UC-Berkeley (if you can get in....very competitive) and then UCLA (also very competitive)

[phisigduchesscv]

Originally posted by MattUMASSD
whats the best uc to go to for graduate school in business?

I think it also depends on what emphasis you want to get your MBA in. You should just do a lot of research on all the UCs and find one that is going to suit you best.

And coming from the LA region I'll have to say that if you asked anyone around here what was the best UC school for Business everyone here would say UCLA over UC Berkeley any day. However I have a feeling if you're up in Northern Cal it is probably the other way around.

You might visit the campus's too to see what you like and where you would fit in better. Here in So. Cal. Berkeley has an image of being a "radical/liberal" school (ie hippies, protesters, etc) while UCLA has a more conservative image. Like it is with Sororities and Fraternities you just need to find the school that is going to fit you best. I mean for me I know I would love the region around Berkeley because Northern Cal has some of the most beautiful spots in the state but I definitely wouldn't be comfortable actually going to school there, even if it was the best school in the nation.

[bruinaphi]

Haas at Berkeley is ranked 7th in the nation by US News & World Reports.

Anderson at UCLA is ranked 14th in the nation by USN&WR (with Yale and ahead of Cornell for all the east coast snobs).

It's interesting b/c Business Week and Forbes reverse the two and rank Anderson ahead of Haas.

UC Davis and UC Irvine are also ranked in the top 50.


What it boils down to is that getting into either Haas or Anderson is a HUGE accomplishment.

Here's a really cool site that compares the different rankings of business schools.

[MattUMASSD]

Thanks for all your help. Hey Im an east coast snob lol (just kidding).

[AYE FEE]

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
UC has higher admissions standards and, honestly, a better reputation education wise.

CSU system isn't bad or anything, except many of them are known as party schools, like mine.

Which is kinda true. We can outparty UCSD any day!

And UCSB DOESN'T have a party school reputation?

The school has three winners of Nobel Prizes and "UCSB's faculty includes many elected members or fellows of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences (24), the National Academy of Sciences (22), the National Academy of Engineering (22), and the American Association for the Advancement of Science (38)". In addition, UCSB is one of only "62 institutions elected to membership in the prestigious Association of American Universities". Finally, And UCSB was named one of the 12 hottest American colleges in the Kaplan/Newsweek How to Get Into College guide for 2003.

All this and they are still known as "University of Cheap Sex and Beer" and for drunk coeds falling off the cliffs.

<please excuse the shameless plug for my alma mater >

[DeltaSigStan]

Originally posted by AYE FEE
And UCSB DOESN'T have a party school reputation?

Better than the reps of San Diego State, Chico State, Long Beach?

[AYE FEE]

U Can Study Buzzed will always be up there, no matter what the University does about it. I think it's a matter of opinion if LB, SD & Chico are crazier, but consider:

• Halloween in Isla Vista requires presence by the SWAT team and approximately 50 additional SB County Sheriffs
  
  There are 6 liquor stores within a 1 mile radius, and virtually every eating establishment in Isla Vista sells pitchers of beer.
  
  The off campus bookstore carries tee shirts that read 'UCSB - producing the best educated alcoholics since 1909'

Pretty sharp contrast to the academic achievements of the campus.

[DeltaSigStan]

Well, at UCSB has some sort of academic rep as well, can;t say the same about SDSU, Chico or Long Beach.

Well, SDSu has one of the best grad schools and business schools.

[fingerbang]

wow if theres 6 liquor stores in a mile radius, i guess that it has to be a party school crazier than sdsu

[APhiAngel]

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
UC has higher admissions standards and, honestly, a better reputation education wise.

CSU system isn't bad or anything, except many of them are known as party schools, like mine.

Which is kinda true. We can outparty UCSD any day!

HAHAHAHA!!!! I totally agree. I have been to some SJSU parties that are WAY better than CAL's

[APhiAngel]

Originally posted by PandaOnProzac
One difference that's very noticeable is that CSU's are EVERYWHERE in Cali. UC wise there's only 4 in SoCal, 1 in Mid Cal and 4 in NorCal. Cal State's are just everywhere.

Last I checked there were 9 UC's and 22 CSU's. The number of CSU's has changed.

[phisigduchesscv]

Originally posted by APhiAngel


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One difference that's very noticeable is that CSU's are EVERYWHERE in Cali. UC wise there's only 4 in SoCal, 1 in Mid Cal and 4 in NorCal. Cal State's are just everywhere.
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Last I checked there were 9 UC's and 22 CSU's. The number of CSU's has changed.

Yep the CSU's are up to 23 campuses now with the opening of Channel Islands (at the old Camarillo Psych Hospital) Fall 2002.

Here are the CSU campuses going from Southern to Northern Cal
1. San Diego, 2. San Marcos, 3. Fullerton, 4. Long Beach, 5. Dominguez Hills, 6. San Bernardino, 7. Cal Poly Pomona, 8. Los Angeles, 9. Northridge, 10. Channel Islands, 11. Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, 12. Bakersfield, 13. Monterey Bay, 14. Fresno, 15. San Jose, 16. Stanislaus, 17. San Francisco, 18. Hayward, 19. Maritime Academy, 20. Sonoma, 21. Sacramento, 22. Chico, 23. Humboldt Eventually there will be a 24th campus out in the Desert Area. Land has already been donated and/or bought and not sure which CSU it is has some satellite classes there sort of like Northridge did for years in Ventura/Oxnard area. It will be a few years before the Desert campus even breaks ground though.

Here are the UC campuses according to www.ucop.edu
1. San Diego, 2. Irvine, 3. Los Angeles, 4. Riverside, 5. Santa Barbara, 6. Santa Cruz, 7. San Francisco, 8. Berkeley, 9. Davis The 10th campus in Merced will have its first class of incoming students starting in Fall 2004.

As someone said the CSU's are everywhere in California compared to the UC's.

[polarpi]

Originally posted by phisigduchesscv

I have to disagree with SAEactive (a fellow CSU graduate) about it being easier to graduate from the UC then the CSU - 4 years vs 5 years. I think it's more the clientele the CSU serves that make the difference. A lot of the UC's are stereotypical college where you start at 18 and graduate in 4 years. the CSU profiles tend to be transfer or older students who work full time and maybe have a family which causes the time to get a degree to lenghten to 5 years. As for budget problems both the UC and CSUs are in a world of hurt with the budget proposed by the governor this year although the CSUs and UCs and definitely better off then the Community College system.

I agree about the "clientle" each system caters to. I have friends (who are actually cousins) that go to school down here in San Diego (one at UCSD, one at CSU San Marcos)...the one friend graduated in 4 years, after spending a year studying abroad, the other is going into her fifth year after transferring from a JC into CSUSM. I also agree that CSU and UC schools are a lot better off than the JC's with the budget proposed this year...I'm going to a JC right now as I get ready to apply for grad school, since I'm switching gears from my bachelor's degree, and just knowing how the price per unit is going up from about $11 to about $20 next semester is making me cringe....I'm going from paying about $66 for half-time status to about $140 for full time status next semester....not looking forward to it at all!

[raving menace]

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
UC has higher admissions standards and, honestly, a better reputation education wise.

CSU system isn't bad or anything, except many of them are known as party schools, like mine.

Which is kinda true. We can outparty UCSD any day!

unfortunately imma have 2 agree wit dat..