Discretion

[ivy envy]

Fred, please refrain from sending personal,emails to me.

I encourage everyone to ignore what he has been saying. Know yourself, and dont let him put things into your mind. We the members of Alpha Kappa Alpha as well as all of our friends are a group of intelligent women,and we will continue to serve mankind.

And I like so many others will continue to serve the lord..

Fred, Maybe you missed this part in the Bible "Judge Not...."

[Kat]

Sorors, I received an unpleasant email today at 3:47 p.m.. Even though I don't have any proof where it came from, I am willing to guess Fred Hatchett sent it. Fred, DO NOT email me anymore!!! I DO NOT need YOU to minister to me about GOD or my Sorority. My belief in God is real. I do not have to brag nor bost about my religion. I was always told that people who have to talk about how much religion they have are usually the ones you have to look out for. I do not down anyone religion. As far has my sisterhood, that is between me and my God. You had your time in the greek organization. There is no need to infringe on anyone else decision to enter into the greek organization. My final thought and last words about this topic is I know who I kneel down to at night, I know where my blessings come from, and I know that since I became a memeber of Alpha Kappa Alpha my blessings never have stopped nor have they become less. Sisterhood- helping others, giving others, being there for others....Just one way I have received many blessings.

[Fred Hatchett]

Ivy Envy,
You need to read the next 4 verses to understand what that means. I will keep doing what II Timothy 4:2 says, and evidently you have not read Isaiah 55:11. As long as I speak out against GLO's, God's Word will perform its purpose. One soul denouncing or never joining is more to me than 1 million who decide to join having been given the truth. That's right! 1 saved soul for every million I reach is enough for the angels to rejoice. I got the typical cowardly reply from my e-mail to you. NOTHING!

Kat,
It's my obligation to expose the works of darkness. I will do it wherever I choose, and wherever it is possible. I had my time, and now I am having another time. Religion is for losers. Christianity is for the victors. You do what you feel you must, because I am surely going to do what I must. The AKA ritual will soon be mine. When I get it, I WILL EXPOSE AKA to the GLORY of JESUS CHRIST.

[Lil' bit]

Sorors, let's not even dignify Fred Hatchett with a response. No need in paying him any mind. He has his views and obviously is trying to force it upon every one else. IGNORE THIS PERSON...

Skeeeeee weeeeeeee

[Fred Hatchett]

If Christians can be AKA's, then how do the "saved" AKA's explain ATLAS on their shield. A mythological god is another god. Any AKA that reads this, and claims Jesus as savior; I ask you to consider this.

fidelity, friendship, and sincerity

[ivy envy]

Sorors,

I just want to say hello to all, and let us remember to uphold our purpose.
I love you all and I hope that your year has been prosperous thus far, and I will continue to keep all of you in my prayers!

**For the last time, Fred, please refrain from even using my name, or anything in the likeness thereof...**

[Fred Hatchett]

The Bible college I attend challenged the greeks at NCSU. If their Christlike, prove it. I told the NCSU AKA's before what I have been saying on this AKA chat. They offered nothing Biblically substantial to uphold their claims that being a Christian and an AKA was godly. T. Barber was one of those persons.

[focus]

I would first like to apologize for the way a fellow Christian came at your organization. He may have good intentions but it was wrong to come at you all like that. I just wanted to clear up a few things that may help some people understand where Christians who decide not to join greek orgs. are coming from. This is from http://www.gotquestions.org/fraternity-s...

Its called:
Why Christians should not join worldly fraternities/sororities

I wanted to give some real concrete reasons from the bible about why Christians dont feel like they can be apart of sororities and fraternities.

The first question that needs to be asked is why a person would want to join a fraternity / sorority. Motives in Gods eyes are all important. (1 Samuel 16:7). Only you truly know what your motives are. Depending on your reasons, different issues come to the forefront. If one wants to join a fraternity/sorority because they have the best parties, the bible says that such a life should belong in one's unsaved past, not in the present life of a believer (1 Peter 4:3).

If one wants to join a fraternity/sorority because of a status symbol, it becomes an issue of pride. The Bible repeatedly encourages humility both in life and in the choice of one's companions (Romans 12:16; 1 Peter 5:5-7), even as Christ lived. The Bible mentions pride as a MAJOR sin and as something God hates (Proverbs 6:16-19; 8:13; 11:2; 16:18; Daniel 4:37; 1 Peter 5:5; 1 John 2:15-17).

A Christian's closest compansionship should be with fellow Christians, and not companionship based on some other external tie such as belonging to the same fraternity / sorority, having gone to the same school, coming from same race or social class, etc. (Galatians 3:28; 1 Corinthians 12:12-13; 12:24-26; Galatians 6:10; John 13:34-35). This is because who one has as his closet companions is a major issue in scripture whether they be fraternity brothers, roommates in a dorm, classmates, etc. Here are a few of Scripture's admonitions concerning this issue: "Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners" (1 Corinthians 15:33). The people around you can really hurt or help your walk with God and if your sorority/fraternity brothers aren't trying to live a Holy life then they can bring you down easier then you can bring them up. "He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed" (Proverbs 13:20). "I am a companion of them that fear thee, and of them that keep thy precepts" (Psalm 119:63).

I hope this helped everyone understand a little more. Please know that I am not trying to judge but instead trying to clear up some misconceptions between two groups of people with different beliefs. At the end of the day it comes down to whether you think your relationship with God is ok or is it being hindered by your involvement with a group of people.

Gos Bless

[soulfulremix]

I mean... really. I was a freshman in High school at the time of this last post.

[f8nacn]

So what do you have to say about people serving GOD by serving their church/community (If you help the poor, you are lending to the Lord...Proverbs 19:17) and working in their fraternity/sorority of choice?

[focus]

Originally posted by f8nacn
So what do you have to say about people serving GOD by serving their church/community (If you help the poor, you are lending to the Lord...Proverbs 19:17) and working in their fraternity/sorority of choice?

You are right, service to others is very important. And I commend groups for making that a large part of what they do. I'm not judging other people, like I said, if you feel you walk/relationship with God is ok then thats great. Keep doing what you feel is right. I just wanted to give this thread an accurate perspective from Christians who have the desire to join greek orgs. but choose not to.

By what I have researched and read about being Christian and in a greek org. it is very possible to be living a Holy life and be in a greek org. You can join the org. for great unselfish reasons (like service), you can not participate in events that would sacrafice your morals (like wild parties), not be prideful, and you can choose as your closest companions those who are living Christ-like. But the reality is that its hard to do and be all those things when the people you call your brother/sister are almost exactly the opposite.

I have yet to find a greek person (on the collegiate level, I don't really come in contact with those other than college), that has been able to live a holy life because of the desire to fit in and be accepted by their brothers/sisters. But it is possible, someone just has to be strong enough to do it, and be an example for other possibly greek Christ-like people to follow.

[PerfectVerse06]

Originally posted by focus
I have yet to find a greek person (on the collegiate level, I don't really come in contact with those other than college), that has been able to live a holy life because of the desire to fit in and be accepted by their brothers/sisters. But it is possible, someone just has to be strong enough to do it, and be an example for other possibly greek Christ-like people to follow.

Apparently, you haven't been looking hard enough because you don't want your stance to be refuted. But I know several examples of members of BGLO's that serve their communities with their respective organizations and DON'T attend 'wild parties'. They still enjoy every minute of being in their respective organizations and don't fall into 'peer pressure' because as members they are strong-minded and already know who they are. They did not join an organization to form an identity for themselves, they were already aware of the person they were BEFORE becoming members. If they weren't the partying type before, they weren't the partying type after.

If you are willing to compromise the behaviors and activities that make you feel most comfortable for the sake of being a member of a fraternity or sorority, maybe you need to wait before you pursue membership. The orgs don't make it's members, the members make their org.

[mulattogyrl]

Wasn't this thread like 6 years old? Just an observation.

[focus]

Originally posted by PerfectVerse06
Apparently, you haven't been looking hard enough because you don't want your stance to be refuted. But I know several examples of members of BGLO's that serve their communities with their respective organizations and DON'T attend 'wild parties'.
If you are willing to compromise the behaviors and activities that make you feel most comfortable for the sake of being a member of a fraternity or sorority, maybe you need to wait before you pursue membership. The orgs don't make it's members, the members make their org.

Thats great, but you don't have to be on the defensive. I don't know every greek person in the world and I am sure there are a lot that are living for Christ. And if you are one of them then I encourage you to continue to be a great example to others. I was just merely trying to tell the thread why those who have already decided not to join for Christian reasons chose not to join.

But one thing I do have a question about. How is that you can say that "orgs don't make its members the members make its org," when in the state I live in, its an unwritten requirment to "be made" in order to get acceptance among the members of those greek organizations? And if you are not "made" (which I have witnessed on a few occasions) you get out-casted by other greek orgs and even members of your own group.

Its just a question, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by mulattogyrl
Wasn't this thread like 6 years old? Just an observation.

6.42 years old. Not that anyone's counting (apparently )