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08-09-2002, 03:31 PM
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This might offend people or they might laugh it off. But I'm serious. I think that before you have children you should be tested to see whether you will be a good parent. If you fail the test you should get an abortion or release that child to an adoption agency no less than one full day (24 hours) after birth.
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08-09-2002, 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by Optimist Prime
This might offend people or they might laugh it off. But I'm serious. I think that before you have children you should be tested to see whether you will be a good parent. If you fail the test you should get an abortion or release that child to an adoption agency no less than one full day (24 hours) after birth.
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Who's laughing?
-Rudey
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08-09-2002, 03:51 PM
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Myself and like 5 other people on the entire planet are 'Republican' and "pro-choice" . . . but hey it's fine.
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I guess we're gonna have to find the other 4...
Being pro-choice is just that PRO CHOICE, not pro-abortion. When I say I am pro-choice it means I support a woman's right to choose whatever she thinks is best for her in her situation PERIOD.
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08-09-2002, 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by AOIIBrandi
Being pro-choice is just that PRO CHOICE, not pro-abortion. When I say I am pro-choice it means I support a woman's right to choose whatever she thinks is best for her in her situation PERIOD.
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I completely agree. For some people the choice might be abortion, for others not. That is the beauty of this country...we have the right to make that decision. Who am I to judge people on what they decide is best?
However, I have a hard time supporting someone's decision to an abortion when they do not take the proper precautions in the first place...abortions should not be used as a birth control method for careless sex.
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08-09-2002, 04:29 PM
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My views are pretty much the same as aephi alum and AOIIBrandi, so I'm not going to restate everything that they just wrote.
Here's my anti-pro-life people rant (hey, it might stir up controversy, but it's my opinion and I feel like stating it, so there  ): I'd like to know why pro-life people feel that they can get away with telling people what to do. I don't see them going out and adopting all of these unwanted children or helping these kids when they are abused or neglected by parents who didn't want them and who resent them for being born. Child abuse and its effects are a much bigger problem for society as a whole than abortion is, so maybe they should concentrate their efforts elsewhere. (This applies mostly to the people who participate in protests about abortion...people who just hold the belief and don't do anything about it don't really bother me.)
I heard about this case near here where a judge ruled that this woman isn't allowed to get an abortion because the fetus's father doesn't want her to (the judge is ignoring the fact that they broke up because he was being abusive towards her and he probably wants to prevent her from having an abortion as a way of controlling her  ). So basically, this woman may have to endure 9 months of someone using her body to make a baby that she doesn't even want. I think that is absolutely appalling. If I can find a link to the story, I will post it here (if I remember!).
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08-09-2002, 04:34 PM
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I am pro-choice. It's a sad and dificult decision for a woman or couple to make and no one else should decide for them. No one gets a kick out of having an abortion which is why I have major issues with pro-lifers. Just the fact that we call them pro-life is wrong. Everyone is pro-life, they are anti-choice!
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08-09-2002, 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by AOIIBrandi
Being pro-choice is just that PRO CHOICE, not pro-abortion. When I say I am pro-choice it means I support a woman's right to choose whatever she thinks is best for her in her situation PERIOD.
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Well said. I'm pro choice. Bringing children into the world is not a decision to be taken lightly, and neither is having an abortion. But the parents of the child should have the choice.
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08-09-2002, 05:07 PM
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Hey, I'm one of those five other people KSig RC. Try living in a city where 85% of the voting population is registered Democrat! When I went to vote for the primary in April, they just handed me a democrat ballot. I said, "no, I'm registered Republican". The lady said, "oh, sorry for you! you're the first one all day". And it was 2:30 in the afternoon!!
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Originally posted by KSig RC
Myself and like 5 other people on the entire planet are 'Republican' and "pro-choice" . . . but hey it's fine.
Personally, I don't know if I would promote the woman I impregnated having an abortion, if it were to happen to us - there are definitely issues as to what makes a person, well, a person, personal morals, all that good stuff that I generally don't think about.
That said, it doesn't make sense for me to take the option away from somebody, just because I might or might not do it. That's not my place at all.
I love hearing the 'biblical extremist' response to abortion - lifesaver is completely correct, it's pretty easy to see when someone is regurgitating something they saw on the zealot's pulpit (or even worse, TV).
//edited for gender correctness . . . turns out, the female has the babies
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08-09-2002, 05:07 PM
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Re: issues
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Originally posted by Rudey
I have issues being with girls that are Pro-Life - it scares me, just like it does for a lot of guys. I guess I will never have sex with a Southerner.
-Rudey
--But then again if the girl keeps the abortion clinic in business, I'm not touching her with Optimist Prime's schlong.
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 Um, I'm a Southerner... and I'm VERY pro-choice. We've got pro-choicers and pro-lifers down here in the South, just like everywhere else. Just wanted to set the record straight. 
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08-09-2002, 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by KSig RC
Myself and like 5 other people on the entire planet are 'Republican' and "pro-choice" . . . but hey it's fine.
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You can add me to your list, KSig RC. I'll be #7!
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08-09-2002, 05:31 PM
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Re: Re: issues
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Originally posted by dzrose93
Um, I'm a Southerner... and I'm VERY pro-choice. We've got pro-choicers and pro-lifers down here in the South, just like everywhere else. Just wanted to set the record straight.
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So you would say that you have just as many pro choice women compared to pro life that they do in the North?
-Rudey
--I'd like names and addresses and do they wear cowboy hats ever?
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08-09-2002, 05:49 PM
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If none have been in that particular situation, then jus how in the Hell can you talk about it?
There is always a certain circumstance for reason on each persons side!
Was it a mistake of sex, screwing
Was it Rape
Was it for the benefit of the child
Was it the benefit of the parents
What ever the reason, there must be a reason for it!
Is killing the right thing to do? NO! But might be!
I eat meat, the cow goes oh no!
I eat sea food, does the lobster say oh no!
If I eat Pork do the pig say, No!
How in the hell do any of us know that the lettuce and radish or onion say the same damn thing!
I have seen hippo krites but no so damn dumb as the human Animal!
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08-09-2002, 05:54 PM
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If lettuce ever says anything to you, punch it. But give it a tender touch after please.
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Originally posted by Tom Earp
If none have been in that particular situation, then jus how in the Hell can you talk about it?
There is always a certain circumstance for reason on each persons side!
Was it a mistake of sex, screwing
Was it Rape
Was it for the benefit of the child
Was it the benefit of the parents
What ever the reason, there must be a reason for it!
Is killing the right thing to do? NO! But might be!
I eat meat, the cow goes oh no!
I eat sea food, does the lobster say oh no!
If I eat Pork do the pig say, No!
How in the hell do any of us know that the lettuce and radish or onion say the same damn thing!
I have seen hippo krites but no so damn dumb as the human Animal!
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08-09-2002, 06:17 PM
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Re: Re: Re: issues
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Originally posted by Rudey
So you would say that you have just as many pro choice women compared to pro life that they do in the North?
-Rudey
--I'd like names and addresses and do they wear cowboy hats ever?
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I don't have stats or anything, Rudey, but I'd be willing to bet that the numbers are pretty close. As for the cowboy hats, I think you'd be shocked to find that most of us don't have those as part of our daily attire.  I've got one, but it came from Wyoming and I haven't worn it in about 10 years. Maybe I'll dust it off and be a cowgirl for Halloween... hmmmm
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