Abercrombie & Fitch do it again - Page 2

Eirene_DGP · #16 05-20-2002, 04:32 PM

I kinda agree with James. I mean little girls these days dress like hoochie mamas. I guess if your little girl is going to wear tight skirts and stretch pants, she might as well wear the thongs too. What ever happened to good old morals and values? I never wore some of the stuff I see little girls wearing these days.

ZTAngel · #17 05-20-2002, 04:38 PM

That's so gross. As a former employee of that company, I can say that there are crappy things that go on behind the scenes there. It is not something I would ever want to be apart of again.
When I was 10-14, I was allowed to go shopping on my own. But, my mother made sure to check out everything I bought. There was no hiding stuff from her either....she did my laundry until I was about 14.
Sadly, I didn't even know what a thong was until I was 15 and didn't start routinely wearing them until I was a senior in HS. I couldn't imagine being 10 and wearing stuff like that. My mother bought me cotton underwear with paisley patterns on them...nothing sexy for her 10 year old. I'll do the same for my daughter so that she won't grow up to be like that 14 year old girl who James saw at the movie theater.

IowaHawkeye · #18 05-20-2002, 04:49 PM

blame britney spears... she wears the tight low-rise jeans with her thong hanging out, hell she even wears her thong on the outside of her jeans in her "i'm a slave for you" video... every little girl wants to be like her so its a given that they'll try and dress like her.

you really can't blame A&F though.. they saw a potential profitable product to market to that age range and went for it - no one ever said capitalism had morals.

damasa · #19 05-20-2002, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by IowaHawkeye

you really can't blame A&F though.. they saw a potential profitable product to market to that age range and went for it - no one ever said capitalism had morals.

Exactly, make the money first, think about the actions and the product and the negative recourse later.

Yes, I do not agree with the idea at all, I think it's sick, but to be honest, there are many things that little girls shouldn't be wearing these days, yet they still do. To me this means that are quite a few corporations out there that are decidiing to peak their profit potential(s) in this marketing range, and it seems like A&F decided to dip into that market.

***personal note***
I hate A&F with a passion.

Blaine

justhey76 · #20 05-20-2002, 10:14 PM

I dont see what the big deal is. People probably bitched when they came out with two piece bathing suits for girls, now they are the norm. Think of it this way, clothes are getting tighter, at younger ages, and instead of saying, dont wear ANYTHING under your pants to eliminate panty lines, at least they are encouraging SOMETHING.

KSig RC · #21 05-20-2002, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by Eirene_DGP
What ever happened to good old morals and values?

Huh?

Just because a 10 year old girl is wearing a thong doesn't mean she's having sex, or drinking, or smoking, or swearing, or (pick your amoral activity) . . .

Anyone who desires to see 10 year old girls in thongs has serious problems, no doubt about it. But I don't think this is a moral argument in the slightest, unless you're saying that Abercrombie and Fitch Inc. is pushing poor morals via underwear, which I don't see how causation can be determined at all.

Poor taste, most certainly. Morally reprehensible, well that isn't an implicit truth.

RubberSoul · #22 05-20-2002, 10:31 PM

It is disgusting that little girls are trying to dress this way.....they wouldn't be worried about trying to look "sexy" if they weren't planning to do something about it. But what kills me is that these children wouldn't be able to dress this way if the manufacturers didn't make their size.....

A lot of it comes down to parental irresponsibility. Somebody out there is letting their kids dress this way and then it filters down. Sure, there are kids sneaking it, but the vast majority get these hoochie clothes from their parents and wear them with their parents' knowledge. A ten year-old has neither the funds nor the means of transportation to acquire many of these clothes without their parents' knowledge. I dread my kids getting to the age where I have to battle with the lousy judgment of other kids parents.

Lil_G · #23 05-21-2002, 06:39 AM

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Originally posted by RubberSoul
It is disgusting that little girls are trying to dress this way.....they wouldn't be worried about trying to look "sexy" if they weren't planning to do something about it.

I don't know about that. I think it's more so a a matter of desensitivity - kids see sexuality everywhere, cliche I know.

Watching Oprah yesterday the main discourse was about children and their exposure to violence and sexuality on television. One kid suffered second and third degree burns mimicking a skit from "Jackass". He was 12 years old, involved lighting himself on fire. The attention to detail was incredible, he and his freinds even taped it, laughing to their stunts exactly as Johhny Knoxville would. As someone mentioned with Britney Spears, if there weren't icons out there promoting this type of behavior, i'm convinced children wouldn't be slutting-it-up they way they are.

Not that i'm ignoring parents' responsibility, but i can't see these kids wanting to dress like this if media moguls like Brit didn't sell sex the way she does.

LeslieAGD · #24 05-21-2002, 06:54 AM

It's such a blame game...the parents, the media, the icons...and yes, this is all true but look what our society has come to in the last decade. When I have kids, it scares me to think what they'll try to get away with. And some people might be thinking, "it's just underware"...but when people get upset about things like this, it's about more than just thong underware.

SigmaChiCard · #25 05-21-2002, 07:33 AM

Just a question.

Many of you don't blame A&F for this simply because they're dipping into a money-making market. Correct? I agree with that.

Reconsider.

You're blaming Brittney Spears for the same thing.
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How many of you thong-wearing girls have younger sisters? I guarentee these girls much more badly wanna be like their cool, 'hip' older sis than Ms. Spears. Maybe they say 'I wanna be like Jane, so I'm going to wear a thong too." Just think about it. Consider self, before pushing blame.

33girl · #26 05-21-2002, 09:54 AM

Well, little girls have always wanted to dress up and try to be sexy, even if we had no clue what it was about. I am from the Cher era, and I remember us running around with our t-shirt tails tucked up through the neckline, to show off our bellies. But we knew that was just for playing dress-up, and we also knew that our parents/teachers would never put up with us dressing like that regularly. That's the big diff - little girls going to school looking like they are playing dress-up. Plus, they didn't MAKE sexy clothes for that age group - because the parents would not buy them. The most risque thing I owned was a halter. And believe me, once the boobs started coming out, the halters started going away.

Yes, A & F is disgusting, but they wouldn't make & sell it if there weren't dumbasses out there buying it.

Honeykiss1974 · #27 05-21-2002, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by LeslieAGD
It's such a blame game...the parents, the media, the icons...and yes, this is all true but look what our society has come to in the last decade. When I have kids, it scares me to think what they'll try to get away with. And some people might be thinking, "it's just underware"...but when people get upset about things like this, it's about more than just thong underware.

I agree with you Leslie 100%.

Additionally, we have to keep in mind that a lot of women in our (meaning the 25-35) generation had children as teenagers, so I lot of younger girls (10-14) don't have to sneak out and buy the sexy clothes/thongs....why? Because they can get it from mom (who is only about 26 or 27). Plus, if mom is constantly dressing provacative, her daughter will pick up on this because children will model themselves after their parent.

UDZETA · #28 05-21-2002, 10:32 AM

I do not remember if anyone read the post about the school teacher who lifted up young girls skirts to make sure they weren't wearing thong underwear at a school dance. Well I read that post and so did a lot of you and your reaction was that the teacher shouldn't do that and the girls should be allowed to wear whatever underwear they want. But here you are talking as if the thought of thong underwear is competely gross. I do not think that preteens should be wearing it but when I was 14, I was in high school. Now is it so wrong for a high school girl to be wearing a pair of thong panties? There was a new report put out this week on children maturing a lot faster now days. There were reports about a children as young as six starting adolescences. Children are maturing a lot faster and maybe A&F are playing on that. And for goodness sakes it's just underwear!

Honeykiss1974 · #29 05-21-2002, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by UDZETA
I do not remember if anyone read the post about the school teacher who lifted up young girls skirts to make sure they weren't wearing thong underwear at a school dance. Well I read that post and so did a lot of you and your reaction was that the teacher shouldn't do that and the girls should be allowed to wear whatever underwear they want. But here you are talking as if the thought of thong underwear is competely gross. I do not think that preteens should be wearing it but when I was 14, I was in high school. Now is it so wrong for a high school girl to be wearing a pair of thong panties? There was a new report put out this week on children maturing a lot faster now days. There were reports about a children as young as six starting adolescences. Children are maturing a lot faster and maybe A&F are playing on that. And for goodness sakes it's just underwear!

Hi UDZETA

I participated in the thread that you speak of yes, it is wrong for an EDUCATOR to check and see what kind of underwear a kid has on. And yes, it still believe that you should not be making THONGS for an age group of 10 to 14 year olds, which translates into 3rd/4th graders through 8th graders!

Who cares about pantylines in 4th grade? Shoot, who was wearing tight jeans in the 4th grade? I am all for thongs

but not for kids. What's next, thongs for Barbie?????

Eirene_DGP · #30 05-21-2002, 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by KSig RC
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Huh?

Just because a 10 year old girl is wearing a thong doesn't mean she's having sex, or drinking, or smoking, or swearing, or (pick your amoral activity) . . . [B]

Maybe not, but it comes down to what the parents allow their children to leave the house in. I can't speak for everyone's families but most parents give their daughters an age on what they can do like date, trade stockings for panty hose, high heels, lipstick and makeup. Values only mean something to the individual. If your daughter starts off with all of these coming of age items, will she value them later?