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02-26-2002, 02:10 PM
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When I pledged, two of my pledge sisters were 17. They were the youngest sisters in the sorority for three semesters. We pledged the last semester that first semester freshmen were allowed. Under 17 seems a little too young to me to commit to a lifetime of sisterhood especially if her idea of a sorority is an endless party.
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02-26-2002, 02:47 PM
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i think there is a ton of differences between someone who is 14 or 15 than someone who is 17. since you keep stressing that she enjoys partying a whole lot - doesnt really seem like quality sister material in my eyes. yeah everyone likes to party , but when it comes down to it, and i need the advice/comfort/help/whatever from a sister, going to someone who is 14 or 15 seems absurd to me.
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02-26-2002, 02:58 PM
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How do her parents feel about all this? I know that if I were a parent, I wouldn't want my 15 year old daughter hanging out at frat parties. Talk about a disaster waiting to happen!
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02-26-2002, 03:10 PM
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volgirl2376 i think there is a ton of differences between someone who is 14 or 15 than someone who is 17. since you keep stressing that she enjoys partying a whole lot - doesnt really seem like quality sister material in my eyes. yeah everyone likes to party , but when it comes down to it, and i need the advice/comfort/help/whatever from a sister, going to someone who is 14 or 15 seems absurd to me.
I'm with you on this one! This is asking for trouble. I too was a YOUNG 17 when I pledged, but EVERYONE seemed "younger" then. Yes, there will always be exceptions, but from the descriptin given, this particular girl is walking jail bait consuming livations underage. This will go on for HOW MANY YEARS???
To put her into a situation with mature young women SEEMS to be more than she can handle at this point in her life. To throw hormonal fraternity guys into the mix...
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02-26-2002, 03:19 PM
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exactly justamom! i mean for a girl who is 14 or 15 who loves to party...what if she "partied" with some fraternity man who wasnt aware of her age - he came to the party and figured everyone there was almost 18 and up. Her parents press charges...lives are ruined....bad situation!!!
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02-26-2002, 03:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by RockChalk
How do her parents feel about all this? I know that if I were a parent, I wouldn't want my 15 year old daughter hanging out at frat parties. Talk about a disaster waiting to happen!
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I feel like I can't say too much more about this on a public forum because this is my friend's family, after all, and I think they're nice people. But one of the things that makes me worry the most is that she hardly has any parental supervision...they run a business and are busy most of the time, so she's pretty much on her own. She still lives at home, but since the family doesn't close the business until after midnight, she's used to staying out late and I guess no one thinks anything of it. It's hard to explain without saying much...you can PM me if you want, because it's sort of complicated!
I guess the point of this thread is that I am worried about her because she seems to young for this, and the fact that she didn't even finish middle school doesn't make me feel better!
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02-26-2002, 03:34 PM
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you know - i dont think any sorority (local or national) in their right mind would extend a bid to a 14 or 15 yr old girl....one who hasnt finished middle school. i could see a 17 yr old...or even a very bright 16 yr old who finished high school and was involved in lots of activities. i know this girl is a family friend, but she sounds like she is nothing but trouble waiting to happen. i dont want that to hurt your feelings...in any way, im just giving you my .02 cents!
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02-26-2002, 03:35 PM
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I agree with volgirl. It sounds like giving this girl a bid would be very bad for her and the organization.
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02-26-2002, 06:28 PM
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While going down to the Chapter on visits, I met this very sweet young lady who always hung at the Parties! I asked her what Soro she belonged to and she told me she was a Senior in HS!
While pretty as a button ( Remember JMOM ) I politltly told her not to come around until she became of some age!
Have not seen her since and miss her! Wonder what she grew up to be!
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02-26-2002, 07:07 PM
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Re: Something else...
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Originally posted by AchtungBaby80
Oops, I forgot to mention that even though I love this girl, she 1) isn't exactly a prodigy, and 2) she seems to think Greek life is all about partying. She grew up in another country, so she wasn't exposed to it much until she came here, and then the example set by the groups at that university probably isn't the best.
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UM....Two Words: RED FLAG. This is a disaster waiting to happen, and it WILL happen.
I can say with complete confidence that it's definitely not the right time for her to join a sorority. As we all know by now, sororities are not all about partying. I remember being really surprised and impressed by the level of responsibility I came into by joining. It was hard work at times! Yes, we had a ton of fun too, but her assumptions are indicative of her lack of maturity. I'm not saying that as an insult, I mean, come on!! - she's young! She should be flirting with high school boys and going to school dances, or whatever 15 year olds do~.....Now, when she gets closer to 18, maybe she'll have a better idea of what sorority is really about. Personally, I can't help but wonder what on earth her parents are thinking in sending her to college at such a young age, but I'll get off my soap box.
If you really care about her well-being, have a candid chat.... and more importantly, I would also consider contacting the Panhellenic Director at her school and give her a big heads up. For me, this has nothing to do with age discrimination - in this case it has to do with a huge liability, a complete lack of maturity, and a lack of genuine interest in the concept of sisterhood and philanthropy! Decision are made to cut girls/women for a wide variety of reasons - logical/illogical/fair/unfair...I can't think of any sorority I've ever come into contact with that would want ANYONE, regardless of age, who just wanted to party. Furthermore, I highly doubt that this girl is even able to comprehend the concept of lifelong sisterhood at this point in time.  If she were 16 and had a strong, educated interest, was willing to put in the effort, and could bring something to the organization - that is a completely different story!
This may end up resolving itself though - As Volgirl said, no one in their right mind would let such a young girl in! It is the antithesis of responsibility!!!
Good luck and please keep us in the loop.
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02-27-2002, 12:29 AM
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Two more words: Jail Bait!  I can just see if we would have told the 20-21 year old guys walking into our mixers "oh by the way, there is a 15 year old here, so mind your P's & Q's"...they would have freaked!
Most of the early entry college types (I mean 13-14, not 16 or 17) I've heard of have very little interest in partying, it's all about studying. I really question whether these parents are sane or know what they're doing. One more argument against homeschooling, IMO...
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02-27-2002, 09:56 AM
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Not only could guys get in trouble for the whole statutory rape thing, but a chapter that was insane enough to give a person that young a bid could get in heaps of trouble as well. An entire chapter can already get in major trouble for its underage members drinking. Trust me, I have seen it happen. So it would be a bad scenario if they got caught drinking with someone who isn't even old enough to drive!
I really doubt that any sorority, local or national, would give someone so young a bid. So hopefully your worries end right there.
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02-27-2002, 10:15 AM
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From a guy's perspective worrying about something like statutory rape (which in my state can be defined as loosely as the underaged person removing her socks in the adult's presence from what I understand) is about the last thing I want to deal with at a party. We have enough problems with immature 18+ year olds as it is, why invite trouble?
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