AEPi chapter disaffiliates from National Organization

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Sen's Revenge

That presumes they believe it's a competition to begin with. I don't believe that they do.

Either way it's still disappointing that a social NIC Fraternity can openly discriminate and kudos to this chapter for taking the initiative to disaffiliate before being forced out.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Either way it's still disappointing that a social NIC Fraternity can openly discriminate and kudos to this chapter for taking the initiative to disaffiliate before being forced out.

So how do you feel about the historically African American members of the NIC and the fact that member fraternities such as Alpha Gamma Rho, Farm House, and Triangle have limits on who they will accept? Do you consider it discrimination?

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

So how do you feel about the historically African American members of the NIC and the fact that member fraternities such as Alpha Gamma Rho, Farm House, and Triangle have limits on who they will accept? Do you consider it discrimination?

Do you mean Kappa and Iota? They are in both NPHC and NIC but don't most people identity them as NPHC over NIC? I don't think AGRho and FarmHouse limits their memberships to just agriculture students but I could be wrong.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Either way it's still disappointing that a social NIC Fraternity can openly discriminate and kudos to this chapter for taking the initiative to disaffiliate before being forced out.

[Sen's Revenge]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Either way it's still disappointing that a social NIC Fraternity can openly discriminate and kudos to this chapter for taking the initiative to disaffiliate before being forced out.

Originally Posted by amIblue?

So how do you feel about the historically African American members of the NIC and the fact that member fraternities such as Alpha Gamma Rho, Farm House, and Triangle have limits on who they will accept? Do you consider it discrimination?

As well as the Latino and Asian member fraternities.

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Do you mean Kappa and Iota? They are in both NPHC and NIC but don't most people identity them as NPHC over NIC? I don't think AGRho and FarmHouse limits their memberships to just agriculture students but I could be wrong.

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Right. This is where I exit. Not flounce, but merely give up.

[amIblue?]

Sen, thanks for the confirmation about Asian and Latino GLOs. I was going off my head post SB, and wasn't sure if they were NIC or not.

PiKA2001, yes, one does have to have an agricultural academic focus to join those orgs. That's why I mentioned them.

[sugar and spice]

A five-minute scan of chapter websites shows that AEPi has black and Asian members on other campuses. It’s unlikely that was the problem here.

AEPi does put a stronger emphasis on their Jewish heritage than other Greek organizations, including the other Jewish-interest ones. They want men who are going to understand Judaism, follow Jewish traditions (no chapter events on Friday nights, etc.), work with Jewish-interest charities. It’s the same thing as the NPHC—do you have to be black to join? No. But you do have to be comfortable immersing yourself in African-American culture and working for African-American causes. AEPi doesn’t mandate that their members be Jewish, but they do mandate that their members be interested in Jewish culture and working towards Jewish causes. If this chapter wasn’t interested in maintaining those traditions, it makes sense that HQ would have objected to it—and it’s good that they parted ways before it became a bigger issue. There will be other fraternities (like . . . almost all of them) that will be a much better fit for the experience they want.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by sugar and spice

A five-minute scan of chapter websites shows that AEPi has black and Asian members on other campuses. It’s unlikely that was the problem here.

I just want to point out that Jewish and black are not mutually exclusive. Same for Jewish and Asian, Jewish and Latino, etc.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Sen's Revenge

Right. This is where I exit. Not flounce, but merely give up.

Bye Hunty.

Originally Posted by sugar and spice

A five-minute scan of chapter websites shows that AEPi has black and Asian members on other campuses. It’s unlikely that was the problem here.

AEPi does put a stronger emphasis on their Jewish heritage than other Greek organizations, including the other Jewish-interest ones. They want men who are going to understand Judaism, follow Jewish traditions (no chapter events on Friday nights, etc.), work with Jewish-interest charities. It’s the same thing as the NPHC—do you have to be black to join? No. But you do have to be comfortable immersing yourself in African-American culture and working for African-American causes. AEPi doesn’t mandate that their members be Jewish, but they do mandate that their members be interested in Jewish culture and working towards Jewish causes. If this chapter wasn’t interested in maintaining those traditions, it makes sense that HQ would have objected to it—and it’s good that they parted ways before it became a bigger issue. There will be other fraternities (like . . . almost all of them) that will be a much better fit for the experience they want.

There are allegations that chapters are getting "reorganized" for having an abundance of Gentiles (for lack of a better word) and nationals are possibly telling chapters not to give bids to people who aren't jewish contradicts the national AEPi message of being open to all college aged men, regardless of religion. Either the chapter is making false allegations or nationals is saying one thing but practicing another, who knows.

Amiblue?- I stand corrected then; I always thought the tradiational ag fraternities had opened up membership to all majors. I told Sen earlier that orgs have a right to limit their membership to whoever they like. What I think is messed up is someone getting initiated into a fraternity, being a member in good standing, then getting forced out because they weren't jewish, a math major, a ginger, etc. Be consistent, don't even rush these guys in the first place.

[33girl]

Rho Epsilon Delta!! The Ginger Fraternity!!

[aephi alum]

Originally Posted by robinseggblue

From finding the article above I came across this situation at MIT: http://tech.mit.edu/V126/N15/15aephi.html

Thank you for slamming the chapter of which I am a founder. For the record, I was Catholic at the time, and I was welcomed with open arms.

ADPi was founded on ideals from Christianity but we're also accepting of all religions.

As is AEPhi. When I was an active, our membership included Christians of several denominations and even a Hindu.

[robinseggblue]

Originally Posted by aephi alum

Thank you for slamming the chapter of which I am a founder. For the record, I was Catholic at the time, and I was welcomed with open arms.

Posting a news story = slamming a chapter? Wow.

I don't know about specifics but I do know chapter identities aren't constant. Take it up with your alma mater's news paper if the report is inaccurate. Don't shoot the messenger.

[aephi alum]

Originally Posted by robinseggblue

Posting a news story = slamming a chapter? Wow.

Why did you post that news story, if not to slam my chapter?

[clemsongirl]

Originally Posted by aephi alum

Why did you post that news story, if not to slam my chapter?

To show that there is a precedent for traditionally-Jewish organizations having issues with accepting members of all religions versus maintaining a strong Jewish identity? I don't see any hostility in simply posting an article related to the topic at hand. It's not as though anyone announced that this was your chapter before posting it.

[aephi alum]

Again:

We don't care what religion a PNM is, as long as she's ok with Jewish ideals.

When I was an active, our membership included Christians of several denominations and even a Hindu.