Kappa Legacy Cut After Pref....Not Given Bid

[AZTheta]

Wrote a response last night but fell asleep. Others have articulated some of the contents of that post.

Bottom line: you drop your current chapter, and you go through recruitment next year. Be aware that you may well have a stigma of sorts attached to you due to the events of this recruitment. We (sorority members) aren't elephants (or eggplants), but we do have long memories, and this will probably be in some peoples' minds next year. However, it seems that membership in Kappa is your goal, so with that in mind, act accordingly.

Just be willing to accept the consequences and pay the costs. That's all. I wish you good luck. The situation as you've described it is problematic and I don't see any quick or easy resolution, especially since more than a day has passed since bid day.

As for the other chapter, given your "unfortunately" remark, I don't see the benefit of asking you to give them a chance.

[SoCalGirl]

OP - Is there any possible chance that your grandma didn't meet the requirements of a Kappa in good standing? Or whatever language they use? Just trying to think through technicalities.

If you have friends in the chapter you should definitely let them know that you had ranked them first. They can start the ball rolling from inside the chapter. But take note that unless one of your friends happens to be the President or VPM they are unlikely to know where you fell on the bid list.


I'm also wondering if an email is a good idea or not to explain your situation. Basically you want all parties involved getting the same info. Email "To" the President and VPM of the local Kappa chapter, the President and VPM of the campus Panhel, and your Rho Chi. "CC" your grandma, the President and VPM of the chapter from which you got a bid, the campus Greek Life / Sorority advisor.


If the Kappa chapter doesn't jump through hoops to properly claim you, then my advice is to pull an Elsa and let it go.


Lastly, time for some introspection, is there anything that you may have done that would have caused them to pull you from the bid list or at least drop you down to the bottom? It likely would have required last minute approvals but think hard about it. Is there anything they could have learned about between when Pref invites were issues and before Bid lists were delivered to Panhel that would have caused them any concern?

[SoCalGirl]

Just throwing out the possibility that the unfortunately bit is tied to her disappointment at not getting a Kappa bid and not a true reflection of her thoughts of the chapter that did bid her. I really think that without tone of voice that sentence could be read either way. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Let. it. go.

You want to go to all this trouble to join a chapter that didn't want you as much as they wanted other women on their bid list? You want to be the NM they were forced to take because you were a legacy?

Let it go.

[KDCat]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Let. it. go.

You want to go to all this trouble to join a chapter that didn't want you as much as they wanted other women on their bid list? You want to be the NM they were forced to take because you were a legacy?

Let it go.

This. I wouldn't drop to join this chapter, even if it is my legacy chapter. They messed up, either deliberately (to avoid taking a legacy that they don't want) or through carelessness. Either way, it doesn't reflect on them in a positive way.

You may have dodged a bullet. Make the best of the chapter that bid you and forget about those girls. It's their loss.

[greekgirl10]

I meant "unfortunately" as in I know that by accepting a bid to a different chapter and signing a MRABA, that I'm not legally allowed by Panhel to just switch into Kappa, whereas if I hadn't accepted a bid, then Kappa could have potentially just added me to the quota. No need for the harsh comments. But thank you to the others who offered advice!

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by greekgirl10

I meant "unfortunately" as in I know that by accepting a bid to a different chapter and signing a MRABA, that I'm not legally allowed by Panhel to just switch into Kappa, whereas if I hadn't accepted a bid, then Kappa could have potentially just added me to the quota. No need for the harsh comments. But thank you to the others who offered advice!

Not exactly correct.

Actually, if you listed both chapters on your MRABA, and one chapter offered you a bid, you're bound for a year regardless of whether you accepted it or not. That's how this works. The language is clear.

If you had ISP'ed (only listed Kappa) even though you attended two parties, you wouldn't be eligible for a quota addition. However, you would have been eligible for COB after recruitment ended, IF Kappa or another chapter was below total and was participating in COB. Considering Kappa met their quota, this probably won't happen/wouldn't have happened.

If Kappa was your only invite, THEN you would have been a quota addition.

Just trying to help you see your options clearly. This is kind of complicated.

ETA: If I screwed this up, PLEASE someone tell me so I can fix this. I am trying so hard to be accurate.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

Not exactly correct.

Actually, if you listed both chapters on your MRABA, and one chapter offered you a bid, you're bound for a year regardless of whether you accepted it or not. That's how this works. The language is clear.

If you had SIP'ed (only listed Kappa) even though you attended two parties, you wouldn't be eligible for a quota addition or a snap bid. However, you would have been eligible for COB after recruitment ended, IF Kappa or another chapter was below total and was participating in COB. Considering Kappa met their quota, this probably won't happen/wouldn't have happened.

Wait.. I thought we established in another recent thread that if a PNM SIPs, then she's still eligible for a snap bid, but not a quota addition..? Or maybe it was the other way around?

[gatordeltapgh]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

If you had SIP'ed (only listed Kappa) even though you attended two parties, you wouldn't be eligible for a quota addition or a snap bid.

ETA: If I screwed this up, PLEASE someone tell me so I can fix this. I am trying so hard to be accurate.

Women that ISP are eligible for snap bids. It's just a huge roll of the dice.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by gatordeltapgh

Women that ISP are eligible for snap bids. It's just a huge roll of the dice.

From the MOI, 18th edition (it's a sticky at the top of this page, ladies):

"If the preferential bidding system is used, women who indicate an intentional single preference and do not receive
an invitation to membership are eligible for snap bidding and COB, but they are not eligible to be a quota addition."

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Wait.. I thought we established in another recent thread that if a PNM SIPs, then she's still eligible for a snap bid, but not a quota addition..? Or maybe it was the other way around?

Originally Posted by gatordeltapgh

Women that ISP are eligible for snap bids. It's just a huge roll of the dice.

Originally Posted by Titchou

From the MOI, 18th edition (it's a sticky at the top of this page, ladies):

"If the preferential bidding system is used, women who indicate an intentional single preference and do not receive
an invitation to membership are eligible for snap bidding and COB, but they are not eligible to be a quota addition."

Ah, damn. I screwed up. So much for patting myself on the back.

I should like to retreat to a corner and lick my wounds.

ETA Should I fix my post which contains misinformation?

[SoCalGirl]

AZTheta you are correct. I suspect the OP understands the gist of the policy even if she didn't phrase it accurately. She "gets" that by listing both chapters, signing the MRABA, and ending up with a bid to the other chapter blocks her from Kappa snapping her or COBing her later.

[AZTheta]

^^^ yay me! I finally got it right? Holy COW. I can't read into what people mean when they write, I get too confused.

So when she wrote "switch into Kappa" I was like "no, no, no - doesn't work that way".

[33girl]

Just to clarify, this IS your grandmother by blood or legal adoption, right? (I'm assuming it's your dad's mom, since you didn't mention being a legacy through your mom) Grandpa's wife #2 who is not your dad's mom would not be considered your grandma, the way KKG phrases it.

[chi-o_cat]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Just to clarify, this IS your grandmother by blood or legal adoption, right? (I'm assuming it's your dad's mom, since you didn't mention being a legacy through your mom) Grandpa's wife #2 who is not your dad's mom would not be considered your grandma, the way KKG phrases it.

The assumption did turn out to be correct in this case, but wouldn’t there be a lot of situations where PNMs have a maternal grandmother who was a member of one GLO, and a mother who joined a different GLO or has no Greek affiliation? The mother could have chosen not to join a sorority, gone to a college where her own mother’s GLO didn’t have a chapter so she joined another group, attended a college without Greek life, or didn’t attend college at all.