Is Santa really good for kids?

[SeriousSigma22]

SI,

Keep the subject about Santa and not about my greek chat name! That's real low and you can't even justify what you did or rather typed. Once again, the subject is about your holiday hero and not about the person commenting and giving an opinion. You might have been making a point but it was a poor one. You don't know me period to even joke around with me.

Serioussigma!

[ladygreek]

SisterGreek,
No offense but I thought is point was right on. You can re-arrange many words but that doesn't make the new word relevant to the initial word.

And Santa is actually based on St. Nicholas:

"The true story of Santa Claus begins with Nicholas, who was born during the third century in Patara, a village in what is now Turkey. His wealthy parents, who raised him to be a devout Christian, died in an epidemic while Nicholas was still young. Obeying Jesus' words to "sell what you own and give the money to the poor," Nicholas used his whole inheritance to assist the needy, the sick, and the suffering. He dedicated his life to serving God and was made Bishop of Myra while still a young man. Bishop Nicholas became known throughout the land for his generosity to the those in need, his love for children, and his concern for sailors and ships."

[SeriousSigma22]

SisterGreek,

That's your opinion about St. Nick, however, I'm not going to rearrange your GreekChat name to give my opinion, make a point or give an historical reference from history. It was after all my opinion and there are other ways to point it out without disrespecting my GreekChat name. Once again, there are numerous tells or stories about the man in the little red suit and I gave my spin on it. The real meaning of Christmas is about Christ and not Santa. I stated my opinion without being disrepectful to anyones Greekchat name and in the future SI needs to do the same.

It's really so amazing how folks like to make a comments without thinking about being rude or disrespect.

Serioussigma22

[ladygreek]

Nor did I rearrange your screen name. And it was not my opinion, but a historical reference. I am not a Christian so it is all the same to me.

I am sorry if I offended you. And I am sure that SI did not mean it as disrespect to you or your sorority. But then he has already tried to explain that.

[Rudey]

I am cracking up in this thread. I like to play the rearrange game too.

If you rearrange God you get something very different. What does it mean? Does it mean something? No because letters in words aren't supposed to be rearranged.

-Rudey
--This is hilarious

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by Rudey
I am cracking up in this thread. I like to play the rearrange game too.

If you rearrange God you get something very different. What does it mean? Does it mean something? No because letters in words aren't supposed to be rearranged.

-Rudey
--This is hilarious

Exactly!

[TRSimon]

I never really bought Santa as a kid. We didn't have a chimney
I always thought there were plenty of magical and great things in life without the whole north pole setup, but that's just me. I had lots of intrigue and imagination and things to believe in during my childhood without Santa, so I was just wondering if it was good to introduce him to kids and then just one day have to explain that it was a lie for all of those years.

Y'all have a Happy Holiday/Merry Christmas/Happy New Year/Happy Kwanzaa, Be careful where y'all point those anagrams

[ladygreek]

I hear ya. I always wondered about the chimney thing, too. But I also remember not being disappointed when I found out there was no Santa because the fun was still there. Same with my daughter. She was like I already figured it out--how else can you explain all those Santas downtown -LOL.

Like the tooth fairy, Easter Bunny, Mother Goose, etc. it was just a fun part of being little.

Happy Solstice, Kwanzaa, and New Years to you, too

[Honeykiss1974]

I don't plan to feed my kids the Santa version. First and foremost, I want them to know that Christmas isn't about getting tons of gifts from a big man that lives at the north pole. I want them to understand that its not about what you get, but what you give unto others (and what was given to us by our Father in heaven).

I'd hardly call this taking the "fun" out of Christmas (lol) or making kids grow up too soon. That's crazy! I mean, they are still getting toys afterall. Just because they won't get the "santa version" doesn't mean that I plan to give a four year old a subscription to the Wall Street Journal for Christmas.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
Just because they won't get the "santa version" doesn't mean that I plan to give a four year old a subscription to the Wall Street Journal for Christmas.

This has me cracking up.

[Lady Pi Phi]

All I'm going to say is that if you're going to keep Christmas a religious holiday, then keep it a religious holiday. Remove ALL pagan symbols from your home. Christmas tree included.

It's really important that we understand the history of Christmas. Christmas is so intermixed with ancient pagan rituals because the early Christians found it difficult to convert pagans to Chritianity. So by leaving some of the old pagan traditions more pagans converted. Don't even get me started that December 25th is also a pagan day...it's the winter solstice.

Now, Santa Claus's name is actually derived from the Dutch Sinter Klauss. Read about him here http://www.the-north-pole.com/history/. Sinter Klauss is the Duth name for St. Nicholas. So before we all start making anograms again, please learn the history.

ETA: The jolly fat man in a red suit was an image created by Coca-Cola.

[KSigkid]

I don't think Santa's a bad thing at all; my kids, whenever I have kids, will get the whole Santa story and have the same experience I had.

I think it's important to keep in mind where Christmas came from, but I don't think that a belief in Santa takes away from that.

Collin
(or Nollci, if an anagram of my name makes me less reputable)

[Dionysus]

When I was a kid, I didn't give a damn about Santa, I was just glad that I got toys.

My father was very against this Santa thing too, but somehow my mother talked him into keeping a lid on it. His side of the family actually told me there was no Santa, but I didn't believe them...until one of my classmates convinced me.

It will depend on my standing with religion (which is like a rollercoaster now) if I will tell my kids about santa.

[SeriousSigma22]

Wow!

It's amazing that when the young man made it personal folks ran to his assistance. Sorhor TRSimons thanks for bringing the subject back to Santa. That's great that many of you love the symbolism of the jolly guy in the red suit but I prefer not to celebrate my holiday or rather Holy day that way.

Yes, I learned about Saint Nick when I lived in Europe (Germany, France, Spain, and England - a very proud Air Force Brat!) and even in World Civics 101 and 102 at the good old University of Delaware, but thanks for the reinforced history lesson folks. I believe that this thread is stated as follows: Is Santa really good for Kids? I say "No" and I believe that the thread was directed towards Santa and not my personal greek chat name. I would never personally attack anyone's greek chat name or the person because it shows that you lack basic home training. It's good to have dissenters and not conformity all the time (that's Sociology 120). However, don't personally attack the person for not agreeing with you. Please read Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority, Inc. disclosure before you present your opinion. I really could careless if you believe the way that I believe because you're not rejecting me. Just keep it about the message and not the poster or rather responder of the thread.

And by the Way! Merry CHRISTmas!

Serioussigma22

[Eclipse]

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
All I'm going to say is that if you're going to keep Christmas a religious holiday, then keep it a religious holiday. Remove ALL pagan symbols from your home. Christmas tree included.

It's really important that we understand the history of Christmas. Christmas is so intermixed with ancient pagan rituals because the early Christians found it difficult to convert pagans to Chritianity. So by leaving some of the old pagan traditions more pagans converted. Don't even get me started that December 25th is also a pagan day...it's the winter solstice.

Now, Santa Claus's name is actually derived from the Dutch Sinter Klauss. Read about him here http://www.the-north-pole.com/history/. Sinter Klauss is the Duth name for St. Nicholas. So before we all start making anograms again, please learn the history.

ETA: The jolly fat man in a red suit was an image created by Coca-Cola.

Agree 100%! People look at me like I am crazy when I say I don't do a tree or other things at Christmas. This year Christmas day is going to be a day of service, meditation and reflection for me. That's it. You guys who gave the information about St. Nicholas are right, but the problem comes in when we add to the story. The story of the real life St. Nicholas stands on it's own, but people had to add to it. Now, instead of doing things in the spirit of/in memory of a person that is long gone, we make up a character that lives in the North Pole and flies through the night. How does that help anything?

Kids are excited about their birthdays (I know I was!). I wondered what I was going to get, who was going to come to my party,etc. Heck, even now I REFUSE to work on my birthday! LOL I don't think kids need something made up to appreciate the wonder of Christmas.

To say that God make himself a little lower that the angels, wrapped himself in skin and came to earth as a baby for ME is more wonderful that any flying reindeer with red noses! For GOD who has all power in his hands to suspend that power and become totally dependant on another so he could identify with me more is more awesome than a jolly ol' elf.