Can I join a sorority??

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Yes, but he also referred to "PNMs", which makes it weird, because I'm pretty sure no NPC group is allowing this (as he mentioned in his example), and I don't know of any non-NPC groups that use that term.

There are a couple of organizations that use the term officially because "pledge" is still seen as taboo by some.

But dekeguy has been here long enough to know that there are multiple conferences/councils. If he meant "NPC," he should've typed that. I read his post as he wrote it.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

There are a couple of organizations that use the term officially because "pledge" is still seen as taboo by some.

Oh, I did not know that. Who else uses PNM?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

dekeguy asked if any "national sororities" allowed it. Some do.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

But dekeguy has been here long enough to know that there are multiple conferences/councils. If he meant "NPC," he should've typed that. I read his post as he wrote it.

Right. My concern was for the OP, or others like her, who may not know the difference and who may think pretty much solely in terms of the NPC when they think "sorority."

Your answer to dekeguy's question was certainly accurate. But in the context of this thread, where the OP appears to be asking about NPC sororities, it seemed like fuller explanation could be beneficial just so that the OP, and any others like her who may read the thread, are clear about the answers. That's all.

[dekeguy]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

There are a couple of organizations that use the term officially because "pledge" is still seen as taboo by some.

But dekeguy has been here long enough to know that there are multiple conferences/councils. If he meant "NPC," he should've typed that. I read his post as he wrote it.

Knight Shadow,

You are correct. I was just looking for general info about a subject I know very little about. Since there are several national umbrella groups I asked a broad question hoping for a broad answer. As to the use of PNM you are right again, I figured that it was a generic term that would hopefully cover the range of words describing what I always thought of as a "pledge".

Thanks for your comment which did answer what I asked.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

dekeguy asked if any "national sororities" allowed it. Some do.

Exactly. Yet another reminder that if you are talking about a specific conference or council, do not frame your comment in a general manner.

As for confusing the OP or other PNMs/aspirants, these college students can handle reading our comments and corrections (when applicable). That is part of the research, discussion, and learning processes of being a college student as well as GLO aspirant. They can handle being perplexed and doing what they need to do via the Internet and in real life to figure stuff out. If they cannot handle it and cannot do what they need to do to figure stuff out...well...I weep for college education and the future of all of our fraternities and sororities.

[knight_shadow]

::groan::

[Greek_or_Geek?]

No, it's my polite way of saying you're driving in the wrong lane.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Greek_or_Geek?

No, it's my polite way of saying you're driving in the wrong lane.

Then vrooooom vrooooom all in "your" lane.

(If you really desire to believe that I was disrespecting NPC policies and procedures and calling them nonsense. Have at it.)

[agzg]

We aren't even sure this is an NPC lane. She never said.

Are women from Barnard allowed to join Columbia's sororities?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by agzg

We aren't even sure this is an NPC lane. She never said.

She did talk about contacting the president of the "Collegiate Panhellenic Council," which I took to be an indication of NPC interest, but maybe not. She also mentioned "rush," which while the NPC doesn't use that term anymore, many PNMs do.

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by agzg

We aren't even sure this is an NPC lane. She never said.

Are women from Barnard allowed to join Columbia's sororities?

Yes ma'am, they are. But the official name is "Barnard College of Columbia University" and they share a course catalog. Barnard students join the Columbia scramble band, Columbia student orgs are open to Barnard women. Barnard does have some orgs that Columbia students can't join, but.. Columbia is pretty much open to Barnard.

[shellsherm]

To clear up some confusion and maybe get a clearer answer, I want to try and become a "member" of ZTA or Phi Mu. Sorry if my terminology isn't incorrect, I will have to do my research

So, while reading through every answer and tangent, someone said I might need to get permission from both schools. I don't have time to go through recruitment (?) during the Fall (fall athlete and working) so I was planning on trying for the Spring. If this is at all possible, should I email both schools' administrations and the President of the Collegiate Panhellenic Council and also officers from the sororities I want to try and get a bid from (I understand they can't promise bids)?

Again, any and all advice/help would be useful! But please, avoid tangents

[shellsherm]

Oh, and ZTA and Phi Mu aren't the only two sororities I would email, I would email all the ones on campus. Those are just the two I am most interested in.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by shellsherm

Oh, and ZTA and Phi Mu aren't the only two sororities I would email, I would email all the ones on campus. Those are just the two I am most interested in.

No. You either didn't read very well or you didn't bother to clarify your terms. You can not join an NPC organization (which includes both ZTA and Phi Mu) if you are not a full-time student at the school where the chapter exists.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

No. You either didn't read very well or you didn't bother to clarify your terms. You can not join an NPC organization (which includes both ZTA and Phi Mu) if you are not a full-time student at the school where the chapter exists.

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