Basketball Wives LA

[LikeASista]

Any takers? I did not expect them to start this episode with the knock-down-drag-out between Laura and Malaysia. I still got tickled at Tanya just sitting there during the entire altercation, ... that is, until the cameras cut to her wiping her tears ... I think she was traumatized that these women could behave like this, ... just as WE are. She's such a genuine person. I felt so sorry for her that the rest of the women tried to gang up on her for not getting up to help. PLEASE!! Sometimes it doesn't help to get physically involved. I learned that lesson teaching middle school: When two kids start fighting, we're taught not to jump in and break them up, because we can be injured ourselves.

But I really admire and appreciate Malaysia and Laura for sitting down, talking it out, and making things peaceful between the two of them. They both apologized to one another, and that is something we don't ever see on reality TV after two people have come to blows. Thank God we can see human beings who can get passed the bullsh*t on nationally television.

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by LikeASista

Any takers? I did not expect them to start this episode with the knock-down-drag-out between Laura and Malaysia. I still got tickled at Tanya just sitting there during the entire altercation, ... that is, until the cameras cut to her wiping her tears ... I think she was traumatized that these women could behave like this, ... just as WE are. She's such a genuine person. I felt so sorry for her that the rest of the women tried to gang up on her for not getting up to help. PLEASE!! Sometimes it doesn't help to get physically involved. I learned that lesson teaching middle school: When two kids start fighting, we're taught not to jump in and break them up, because we can be injured ourselves.

But I really admire and appreciate Malaysia and Laura for sitting down, talking it out, and making things peaceful between the two of them. They both apologized to one another, and that is something we don't ever see on reality TV after two people have come to blows. Thank God we can see human beings who can get passed the bullsh*t on nationally television.

Hey Tanya's sister. LOL

Just kidding.

I will say this though I think my idea of Tanya is biased by her 20/20 interview years ago when she and Jayson Williams were pleading about how it was the limo drivers fault he got shot.

So I understand where you are coming from, but seeing her on this just screams fake.

[TonyB06]

This show is so bad they had to start with the fight, to ensure holding viewership--because the personalities just don't do it.

Tanya still comes off as too "deep" to be real, but she was totally right on not getting in that fight. Two grown women in a restaurant fighting is dumb -- a 3rd grown woman getting involved would be even dumber.

The critcism by the others of Tanya's non involvement probably said more about their lack of perspective than it did about Tanya.

Malayasia's and Laura's peace summit was good and needed to occur, but Malaysia's sister still had a look like she was ready to move some furniture at a moment's notice.

I raved on here last week about how pretty Imani was. She got less and less so with me, the more she opened her mouth. Her perspectives, judgements and alot of her conclusions, particularly calling the girl "worthless" were pretty much the low point of the show -- unless you want to go back to the grown women scrapping right at the start.

Imani, please find your stride and let your inner thang start to match your outer thang.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by LikeASista

I think she was traumatized that these women could behave like this, ... just as WE are.

Generally speaking, sure. In more detail, many of "us" are not shocked or traumatized that these or any women could behave like that. Many of "us" always knew women to defy gender norms and stereotypes and to be assertive, aggressive, and violent as men are expected to be (and men, mainly heterosexual men, who also defied gender norms). Girls and women fighting is nothing new or traumatizing to me. Education level, socioeconomic status, and other demographic factors can make such aggression shocking or traumatizing regardless of gender but even then many people (in general) have something they would fight over even if it doesn't make sense to everyone else.

On one end, it is liberating for some women to be able to do as these specific women do with no consideration to gender norms. Liberation includes the freedom to do what others consider good or bad. However, shows like Basketball Wives, Bad Girls Club, and Real Housewives wouldn't exist if being gossipy didn't conform to gender norms and stereotypes; and if cussing and fighting didn't surprise people coming from women. Women should have a place to display such aggression just as men have always had through media outlets such as video games and sports. I'm a video game and sports fan but these are predominantly boys and men creating and playing these games to both express creativity and aggression. People aren't as shocked and traumatized when men do it. That includes men fighting in public. Most people aren't so shocked when men fight, they may find it really really really dumb that a grown person is fighting, but they aren't so shocked that men are the ones doing it.

With that said, I really hate this show. I keep giving it a chance but I think it will last as long as Football Wives lasted.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by TonyB06

Tanya still comes off as too "deep" to be real, but she was totally right on not getting in that fight.

Just going based on the show:

Tanya is boring as hell. It's almost as though she is trying too hard to be above and beyond reality. Any human who can't talk to other humans without constantly exuding "I'm better than you" needs a reality check and they will eventually get it because everyone meets their match or someone who thinks they are better than they are.

When Tanya said she was looking up "hoodrat" on Google because she didn't know what it was, I was like . She certainly isn't the first or the last person around the world who doesn't know what it means. It's just the context and tone that makes me say "give it a rest, Tanya."

[LikeASista]

I'm surprised no one has jumped on this yet. All the more reason why she shouldn't have involved herself with that restaurant fight between Laura and Malaysia.

Tanya Young Williams, Jayson Williams' Estranged Wife, On 'Basketball Wives,' Domestic Violence

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...1_lnk3%7C96928

[DrPhil]

This show really sucks.

Draya has a gorgeous body. Basketball Wives LA won't last long but her photo shoot will probably have longterm benefit for her.

[LikeASista]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

This show really sucks.

And yet, ... you can't look away.

You're right about Draya, though ... I think she's absolutely gorgeous. I really believe she is a good person, but she just makes bad decisions sometimes. It seems like the rest of the ladies are reeeeeally jealous and see her as a threat because of how attractive she is, so they were ecstatic to find ANY dirt on her. I haven't seen her do anything that was actually mean or malicious at all (that is, ... unless I'm proven wrong in the next episode).

I'm starting to like Malaysia alot more. I think she's been showing herself to be a little more noble when it comes to women appreciating one another, and not being catty just for the hell of it.

And my heart goes at to Jackie. She is showing tremendous strength, ... trying to be strong for her mother and sister. And Doug is such a sweetheart!

I notice we haven't seen Tanya for a coupla episodes. I hope we see more of her this episode. But, yeah, I gotta admit that this show is pretty bad, ... and yet, it's such a guilty pleasure.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by LikeASista

And yet, ... you can't look away.

Okay, am I the only one who watched the boxing match 2 episodes ago? Draya got her ass kicked. I have watched that episode twice because that scene was hilarious. LOL.

Draya's police report, etc.? They made Draya the Royce for this show. It's all so formulaic as is all fake reality television.

[LikeASista]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Draya's police report, etc.? They made Draya the Royce for this show. It's all so formulaic as is all fake reality television.

I know, right?! I felt sooooooooooooooooooo sorry for Draya during this episode. It merely looked like a bunch of broke down women picking on the pretty girl. She has done absolutely nothing to any of these women for them to be so scrutinizing of her! None of them have ANY right to call Draya a jump-off, because every single one of them were doing the exact same thing she was doing to land their men, too.

And I take back everything I said about Jackie in the previous post. I thought she showed tremendous strength during her mother's ailment, but something kept telling me that her tears (or the lack thereof) were for the camera only after watching her display with her daughter. I read the article about her daughter writing a "tell all" book about how insane Jackie, so I watched her very carefully when they showed her seeking counseling for her daughter who is "inexperienced" with boys. Why the hell did she start crying when she discovered that her daughter had merely KISSED a boy ... I knew then that she was acting, ... her display was so fake. UGH!!

[DrPhil]

I'm watching the new episode.

Gloria is a horrible actress. LOL.

[sigtau305]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I'm watching the new episode.

Gloria is a horrible actress. LOL.

lol. It'll be a while before Gloria step on the main stage. So far, the only highlights of the show has been Jackie's Bachlorette's (sp) party and the ladies playing match maker for Imani...In my opinion.

[LikeASista]

~yawwwwwwwwwwn~ Yes, I'm bored with this show, too. These women are simply NOT interesting to me.

One thing I will say, though, ... I need to find out how Draya's workout regiment is (other than pole dancing), ... I'd kill to have that kind of figure. I hate her just for that reason alone.

I knew Jackie was going to be the biggest problem on that show. Something is seriously wrong with that woman, ... seriously. She also comes off a little, ... uh, ... how should I say it, ... BUTCH, at times, ... and I KNOW I'm not the only one who's noticed. I couldn't help but laugh when Jackie tried to call Laura out on the sly, "I don't have a pregnant belly, either!" and Laura goes, "No, ... you just LOOK like it." LMAO!!

Malaysia is starting to irritate me a bit. That little concerned look she has on her face when others are confiding in her about one of the other girls is soooooooo done for the cameras. I mean, this is the same girl who had a knock-down-drag-out with Laura on the first episode. But by observing her demeanor during the launching of her kiddie jewelry party, you would've thought she grew up with a silver spoon in her mouth.

Has anyone else noticed that Tanya has not been shown on another episode since the first two? Hmmmmmm ...

[DrPhil]

I now see why Tanya Williams has not been on Basketball Wives LA. She is busy sitting in the courtroom during the Conrad Murray trial and being the legal expert on HLN. She is a former attorney but, noncoincidentally, the caption under her name read "estranged wife of...Jayson Williams."

"WHAT THE HELL?!"
*Whoopi Goldberg voice*

[LikeASista]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I now see why Tanya Williams has not been on Basketball Wives LA. She is busy sitting in the courtroom during the Conrad Murray trial and being the legal expert on HLN.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, is THAT right?! No wonder, then. Doc, are you and I the only ones watching this show these days?! LMAO!!!

Okaaayyyyy, ... ~sigh~ this time, Jackie wasn't faking the tears when they showed the clip with her and her mother. I actually shed a few tears along with her. My heart goes out to her trying to be strong for her family. Right now, she has my sympathy, but I'm sure she'll do something else insane that will make me forget all that. But she really seemed genuine again. I couldn't imagine what she's going through right now, and maybe that's one of the reasons she keeps up all kinds of drama with "the girls" ... she needs something foolish just to occupy her mind from obsessing over her mom's condition these days. But if it were me, I'd much rather want to occupy my mind with positivity instead.

I gotta give it to Gloria, though, whom I've always assumed thought she was soooooooooooooo hard. At least whenever they decide to focus on her during the show, her mind is usually on bigger and better things, ... i.e., coaching girls basketball, fundraising for cancer research with her fiance, etc. She's using the reality show to showcase her willingness to give back in a sense. I think it's commendable.

I'm really surprised at Laura's behavior. No one trusts her these days. And, now, Draya is on Cloud 9. LOL!! I still think these women are jealous of her, but they're willing to ignore their envy for now since they've found a new target.