Basketball Wives LA

[LikeASista]

Any takers? I did not expect them to start this episode with the knock-down-drag-out between Laura and Malaysia. I still got tickled at Tanya just sitting there during the entire altercation, ... that is, until the cameras cut to her wiping her tears ... I think she was traumatized that these women could behave like this, ... just as WE are. She's such a genuine person. I felt so sorry for her that the rest of the women tried to gang up on her for not getting up to help. PLEASE!! Sometimes it doesn't help to get physically involved. I learned that lesson teaching middle school: When two kids start fighting, we're taught not to jump in and break them up, because we can be injured ourselves.

But I really admire and appreciate Malaysia and Laura for sitting down, talking it out, and making things peaceful between the two of them. They both apologized to one another, and that is something we don't ever see on reality TV after two people have come to blows. Thank God we can see human beings who can get passed the bullsh*t on nationally television.

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by LikeASista

Any takers? I did not expect them to start this episode with the knock-down-drag-out between Laura and Malaysia. I still got tickled at Tanya just sitting there during the entire altercation, ... that is, until the cameras cut to her wiping her tears ... I think she was traumatized that these women could behave like this, ... just as WE are. She's such a genuine person. I felt so sorry for her that the rest of the women tried to gang up on her for not getting up to help. PLEASE!! Sometimes it doesn't help to get physically involved. I learned that lesson teaching middle school: When two kids start fighting, we're taught not to jump in and break them up, because we can be injured ourselves.

But I really admire and appreciate Malaysia and Laura for sitting down, talking it out, and making things peaceful between the two of them. They both apologized to one another, and that is something we don't ever see on reality TV after two people have come to blows. Thank God we can see human beings who can get passed the bullsh*t on nationally television.

Hey Tanya's sister. LOL

Just kidding.

I will say this though I think my idea of Tanya is biased by her 20/20 interview years ago when she and Jayson Williams were pleading about how it was the limo drivers fault he got shot.

So I understand where you are coming from, but seeing her on this just screams fake.

[TonyB06]

This show is so bad they had to start with the fight, to ensure holding viewership--because the personalities just don't do it.

Tanya still comes off as too "deep" to be real, but she was totally right on not getting in that fight. Two grown women in a restaurant fighting is dumb -- a 3rd grown woman getting involved would be even dumber.

The critcism by the others of Tanya's non involvement probably said more about their lack of perspective than it did about Tanya.

Malayasia's and Laura's peace summit was good and needed to occur, but Malaysia's sister still had a look like she was ready to move some furniture at a moment's notice.

I raved on here last week about how pretty Imani was. She got less and less so with me, the more she opened her mouth. Her perspectives, judgements and alot of her conclusions, particularly calling the girl "worthless" were pretty much the low point of the show -- unless you want to go back to the grown women scrapping right at the start.

Imani, please find your stride and let your inner thang start to match your outer thang.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by TonyB06

Tanya still comes off as too "deep" to be real, but she was totally right on not getting in that fight.

Just going based on the show:

Tanya is boring as hell. It's almost as though she is trying too hard to be above and beyond reality. Any human who can't talk to other humans without constantly exuding "I'm better than you" needs a reality check and they will eventually get it because everyone meets their match or someone who thinks they are better than they are.

When Tanya said she was looking up "hoodrat" on Google because she didn't know what it was, I was like . She certainly isn't the first or the last person around the world who doesn't know what it means. It's just the context and tone that makes me say "give it a rest, Tanya."

[LikeASista]

I'm surprised no one has jumped on this yet. All the more reason why she shouldn't have involved herself with that restaurant fight between Laura and Malaysia.

Tanya Young Williams, Jayson Williams' Estranged Wife, On 'Basketball Wives,' Domestic Violence

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...1_lnk3%7C96928

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by LikeASista

I think she was traumatized that these women could behave like this, ... just as WE are.

Generally speaking, sure. In more detail, many of "us" are not shocked or traumatized that these or any women could behave like that. Many of "us" always knew women to defy gender norms and stereotypes and to be assertive, aggressive, and violent as men are expected to be (and men, mainly heterosexual men, who also defied gender norms). Girls and women fighting is nothing new or traumatizing to me. Education level, socioeconomic status, and other demographic factors can make such aggression shocking or traumatizing regardless of gender but even then many people (in general) have something they would fight over even if it doesn't make sense to everyone else.

On one end, it is liberating for some women to be able to do as these specific women do with no consideration to gender norms. Liberation includes the freedom to do what others consider good or bad. However, shows like Basketball Wives, Bad Girls Club, and Real Housewives wouldn't exist if being gossipy didn't conform to gender norms and stereotypes; and if cussing and fighting didn't surprise people coming from women. Women should have a place to display such aggression just as men have always had through media outlets such as video games and sports. I'm a video game and sports fan but these are predominantly boys and men creating and playing these games to both express creativity and aggression. People aren't as shocked and traumatized when men do it. That includes men fighting in public. Most people aren't so shocked when men fight, they may find it really really really dumb that a grown person is fighting, but they aren't so shocked that men are the ones doing it.

With that said, I really hate this show. I keep giving it a chance but I think it will last as long as Football Wives lasted.