Non-liberal hippie gay guy hoping to join a fraternity...

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Hmm, interesting points but someone being gay and in the republican party shouldn't be surprising or troubling.

DTD Alum was saying something different than what Munchkin and I were saying.

[33girl]

I am a member of the Republican party because my parents were, and because my state doesn't allow independents to vote in primary elections.

The "party line" has been shoved into place by a very vocal minority of the party. Many Republicans don't give a shit about gay marriage, abortion or any of the other hot button issues that the ultraconservative right wing of the party jumps on - or if they do give a shit, they are on the opposing side. They are Republicans because they agree with the fiscal side of what being a Republican has HISTORICALLY meant.

Don't be condescending and "sad" for someone because you think their choice of political party makes them self-hating.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Don't be condescending and "sad" for someone because you think their choice of political party makes them self-hating.

Oh, I'm not. I see a bit of self-hating in the OP regardless of political leaning. He's obviously trying to set himself apart from other gays and possibly using his membership in the Republican Party as part of that. He resorted to stereotypes of gay men. The gay Republicans I know aren't self-hating, and I don't feel sad for them at all.

Originally Posted by MysticCat

While that certainly could be going on, it could also just be that he grew up in a Republican family and/or naturally aligns with a more fiscally-conservative, smaller government, pro-business point of political view.

It could be, but if that were the case, he wouldn't have gone on about how he's not like those other gays. It sounds like he may have thrown the Republican thing in there to emphasize how different he is.

[DubaiSis]

Isn't it funny that his political tendencies were the hot button on his post?

To the OP, I can't begin to tell you what to do, but I think I would not lie about it but not feel the need to share your whole life story either. There seems to be an abundance of that lately. Maybe it's a side-effect of social media that there's TMI in the world. I would think your sexual status is something your friends need to know about, and nobody else. On the other hand, I don't know if it's just easier to say some version of "hi. I'm gay" on first introduction, so you don't have to come clean at some later point. Then at least you'd know who you were dealing with right out of the shoot.

And I can definitely tell you there are plenty of gay men in fraternities. My spring formal date, for instance. And that was eons ago. And he was out. OK, he CAME out while he was in the house, and to me. And yes, that was a fun conversation.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

And I can definitely tell you there are plenty of gay men in fraternities.

Of course there are. But there can be wide differences on how campus Greek cultures and specific chapters react to it or feel about it. He's asking about the possible reaction at a specific school, and he's asking some specific chapters, or a specific category of chapters.

[katydidKD]

Anyone remember when the Heritage Foundation pulled out of CPAC and there was mass hysteria because GOProud was permitted to be a sponsor of the event?

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by katydidKD

Anyone remember when the Heritage Foundation pulled out of CPAC and there was mass hysteria because GOProud was permitted to be a sponsor of the event?

I thought that was a rumor started by the social fundies.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20...f_goproud.html


ETA- It was rumored that Heritage pulled out BECAUSE GOProud was attending.

[katydidKD]

Stand corrected on that one, but it did cause issues

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-gays-deepens/

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by katydidKD

Stand corrected on that one, but it did cause issues

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-gays-deepens/

Indeed it did. If my memory serves me correctly it was Concerned Women for America that made the huge stink and went on all of the radio talk shows blasting GOProud for wanting to be at CPAC.

[DubaiSis]

And like anyone asking a recruitment question, the answer is "you're going to have to find out for yourself." But if he wants to know if he'll be the only gay guy they've ever come across in the Greek system, the answer to that is no. We just can't tell him how this particular fraternity or campus culture responds to homosexuality in the 21st century.

In interest, I googled UNC gay student and after getting past a million stories about a hoax gay hate crime, I found a message board that says UNC is remarkably gay friendly. It didn't mention fraternities, however.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

And like anyone asking a recruitment question, the answer is "you're going to have to find out for yourself." But if he wants to know if he'll be the only gay guy they've ever come across in the Greek system, the answer to that is no. We just can't tell him how this particular fraternity or campus culture responds to homosexuality in the 21st century.

In interest, I googled UNC gay student and after getting past a million stories about a hoax gay hate crime, I found a message board that says UNC is remarkably gay friendly. It didn't mention fraternities, however.

There's a huge difference between a college being gay-friendly, and that same college's Greek system being gay-friendly. I'd imagine that large state schools with excellent academic reputations are probably more gay-friendly than most just by virtue of their size. I can think of a few exceptions, but those are the exception and not the rule. My undergrad (small private) was EXTREMELY gay-friendly. FOX News even did undercover taping of one of the LGBT parties to show how we were one step away from Gomorrah.

Our Greek system on the other hand, was not gay friendly at all. If there were any gay members of NIC fraternities, they were definitely deeply closeted.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

And like anyone asking a recruitment question, the answer is "you're going to have to find out for yourself." But if he wants to know if he'll be the only gay guy they've ever come across in the Greek system, the answer to that is no. We just can't tell him how this particular fraternity or campus culture responds to homosexuality in the 21st century.

And the second question -- the one you say we can't tell him -- is the one he asked, or at least from the context of his question, is the one that matters to him.

Only people from Carolina or familiar with Greek life at Carolina can answer what he's asking about. Unfortunately, as I've said, he may have already shot himself in the foot to some extent.

[KSig RC]

Guys, I don't see why we're being so harsh on this dude - nobody jumped my throat when I explained to the board that I'm straight, but not all uptight and athletic and macho like those other straight guys ... I'm definitely swishy and speak in tones both dulcet and lispy, I subscribe to both Details and Us Weekly, and not only do people describe me as sartorial, but I know what the word means, too. I don't high five, my flatulence is reserved for the proper time and place, I've never wasted a single minute watching the NFL, and I'm such a gentle lover they call me The Napkin.

I don't want anybody to think I act straight - I definitely do not, heaven forbid. What's the big problem with that, other than sounding incredibly stilted and judgmental and reliant upon fishy stereotypes?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Guys, I don't see why we're being so harsh on this dude - nobody jumped my throat when I explained to the board that I'm straight, but not all uptight and athletic and macho like those other straight guys ... I'm definitely swishy and speak in tones both dulcet and lispy, I subscribe to both Details and Us Weekly, and not only do people describe me as sartorial, but I know what the word means, too. I don't high five, my flatulence is reserved for the proper time and place, I've never wasted a single minute watching the NFL, and I'm such a gentle lover they call me The Napkin.

I don't want anybody to think I act straight - I definitely do not, heaven forbid. What's the big problem with that, other than sounding incredibly stilted and judgmental and reliant upon fishy stereotypes?

LO freaking L

[Shrapnel360]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Guys, I don't see why we're being so harsh on this dude - nobody jumped my throat when I explained to the board that I'm straight, but not all uptight and athletic and macho like those other straight guys ... I'm definitely swishy and speak in tones both dulcet and lispy, I subscribe to both Details and Us Weekly, and not only do people describe me as sartorial, but I know what the word means, too. I don't high five, my flatulence is reserved for the proper time and place, I've never wasted a single minute watching the NFL, and I'm such a gentle lover they call me The Napkin.

I don't want anybody to think I act straight - I definitely do not, heaven forbid. What's the big problem with that, other than sounding incredibly stilted and judgmental and reliant upon fishy stereotypes?

I actually have a cousin in Kappa Sigma at GA Southern.