Sad News: Passing of a UF (FL) Delta Delta Delta Member - Page 2

jennyj87 · #16 03-19-2011, 11:03 AM

Her (Blood) sister is a Chi O at my school. So sad. Love to her family and the UF chapter <3

AOII Angel · #17 03-19-2011, 12:10 PM

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Whaaaaaaat? I didn't say that. I personally think it's too soon for anyone, sorority, family, school, you name it, to turn this woman's death into a crusade of any sort. It's unfeeling to the many people in her life who are all grieving in different ways.

I stand corrected...I was scanning the post and just saw sorority. I disagree about timing. Not to mention, these are articles not obituaries. The journalists reporting about this can include anything they want in order to bring some sense of connection with the community or campus environment. You frequently see tie-ins on articles about murders/rape case discussing how people can make themselves more safe. I don't see how this event is any different. The article I highlighted actually doesn't preach the ills of binge drinking, it just discusses how to make sure your friends are safe if they over do it. No condemnation. Just prevention.

nittanygirl · #18 03-19-2011, 12:32 PM

My sincere condolences go out to her family, friends and sisters.

33girl · #19 03-19-2011, 12:43 PM

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You frequently see tie-ins on articles about murders/rape case discussing how people can make themselves more safe.

The difference is - these articles were written before the toxicology report was even final. It's just being assumed that sorority girl, spring break, was at a party where alcohol was served = she drank too much and died because of it. Not cool. There are many other factors that could have conceivably contributed to her death.

AOII Angel · #20 03-19-2011, 12:49 PM

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The difference is - these articles were written before the toxicology report was even final. It's just being assumed that sorority girl, spring break, was at a party where alcohol was served = she drank too much and died because of it. Not cool. There are many other factors that could have conceivably contributed to her death.

And they didn't say that was they cause of her death, either.

33girl · #21 03-19-2011, 01:04 PM

No, they just brought up that she watched a TV show about death by alcohol poisoning. The attitude is pretty clearly displayed.

AOII Angel · #22 03-19-2011, 01:19 PM

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No, they just brought up that she watched a TV show about death by alcohol poisoning. The attitude is pretty clearly displayed.

But she was drinking that night. The point is that if you are drinking with friends and a friend doesn't look well, don't leave them alone to sleep it off. Even if the cause of her death wasn't alcohol intoxication, she may have been saved if someone had noticed she had stopped breathing for whatever reason and called 911. All likelihood is that it was alcohol intoxication, but for what it's worth, most causes of death for a young woman drinking alcohol are preventable. And this comes from someone who was saved by the quick thinking of sisters who didn't leave me alone when I was probably suffering from alcohol poisoning. I had at least blacked out and fallen out of a car. Freshmen make lots of mistakes. It happens. The key is to not potentiate those mistakes into fatal ones.

Low C Sharp · #23 03-19-2011, 02:24 PM

"Too soon" is the only time when the story is likely to have any impact on at-risk people. Invincible teenagers are not frightened by the fact that somebody died last year. If it's not here and now, directly relatable to their own actions, it will not seem real and relevant to them.
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33girl · #24 03-19-2011, 08:58 PM

That's an awfully huge and condescending generalization.

Give people time to grieve. Period.

AOII Angel · #25 03-19-2011, 09:31 PM

That's your opinion. Education saves lives. Period.

southbymidwest · #26 03-19-2011, 09:55 PM

You can bring a horse to water... I still think kids that age think they are bulletproof. I can tell you that kids are told over and over about the consequences of drinking- teachers discussing underage drinking and the consequences in health classes/assemblies in high school; parents having discussions with their teenagers; the MAD sponsored twisted remnants of a car involved in a alcohol-related crash in the high school parking lot for a couple of weeks before Prom; the required Greek-wide seminars discussing alcohol; the kids they have known who blacked out from drinking time and time again; they just don't think it will happen to them. I would like to see more teaching friends to look out for friends who might have alcohol poisoning-signs, when to get them medical attention, possibly saving said friend's life, even if the consequences other than the alcohol poisoning could be pretty tough.

AOII Angel · #27 03-20-2011, 12:49 AM

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You can bring a horse to water... I still think kids that age think they are bulletproof. I can tell you that kids are told over and over about the consequences of drinking- teachers discussing underage drinking and the consequences in health classes/assemblies in high school; parents having discussions with their teenagers; the MAD sponsored twisted remnants of a car involved in a alcohol-related crash in the high school parking lot for a couple of weeks before Prom; the required Greek-wide seminars discussing alcohol; the kids they have known who blacked out from drinking time and time again; they just don't think it will happen to them. I would like to see more teaching friends to look out for friends who might have alcohol poisoning-signs, when to get them medical attention, possibly saving said friend's life, even if the consequences other than the alcohol poisoning could be pretty tough.

That's exactly what was in the article I linked. I completely agree. We know young adults are going to binge drink. When they do, they should at least know how to recognize the signs of trouble. Look at the Cornell SAE chapter that lost it's charter because they didn't call for help when one of their brother's died from alcohol poisoning. In some cases, people are being held responsible for this information.

Scandia · #28 03-20-2011, 06:47 PM

That is so sad. Poor Molly. My condolences go to her family and to her Tri-Delta sisters.

Low C Sharp · #29 03-21-2011, 02:10 PM

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That's an awfully huge and condescending generalization.

It's also true. If you disagree that teenagers think they're invincible, or that it's really hard to get safety messages through to them effectively, or that they are more likely to listen when they've been shocked by a tragedy, go ahead and offer some contrary facts.
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