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11-10-2010, 11:29 PM
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Oh please. If Amazon didn't think they could make money off the book, they never would have listed it. It's the American way.
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They do self-publishing. It costs them practically nothing and the author pays a fee. It's not as if Nile chose to publish or list it in particular. It's probably entirely automated at this point.
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11-10-2010, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille
They do self-publishing. It costs them practically nothing and the author pays a fee. It's not as if Nile chose to publish or list it in particular. It's probably entirely automated at this point.
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And by listing it for a fee from the author, they are making money off the book.
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11-10-2010, 11:35 PM
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And by listing it for a fee from the author, they are making money off the book.
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Right, but they list every book 'for the money.' Their actions with this book are not, at present, any different from any other book. So claiming that this book in particular was listed for the sake of making money and causing a ruckus is disingenuous.
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11-11-2010, 12:54 AM
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Two werdz...Patriot Act.
They don't need PC for something like this. If the FBI wanted a list of everyone who downloaded/bought this book they'd have it by tomorrow morning. The tracking of sales of certain products( bomb/meth making, child porn) is common in today's world. It's also easier for law enforcement to get a list of everyone who visited greekchat within the last 24 hours as opposed to getting a list of every site Drolefille visited in the last 24 hours.
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I'll defer to an actual lawyer but not to you  Where's MC when you need it. Secure servers probably require access from the company and companies don't like giving out customer information as a rule because it makes people less likely to buy from them.
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Wow, bored tonight or did frodo forget to take his sock off.
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11-11-2010, 01:03 AM
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Those are customer images, frodo, added by customers. I don't think Amazzon is "taunting" anyone.
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11-11-2010, 02:19 AM
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You have no problem answering her question based on something you saw on a TV show but when I chime in you spew this. LOL.
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I'll defer to an actual lawyer but not to you  Where's MC when you need it. Secure servers probably require access from the company and companies don't like giving out customer information as a rule because it makes people less likely to buy from them.
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"lil miss, lil miss, lil miss can't be wrong.."
Are the people who bought this book well protected from LE from finding out they bought it? Short answer, NO they really aren't.
BUT...
What they can and cannot do with the information gathered or if they can use it in the courts is the question to be answered by a lawyer.
And yes, companies aren't exactly pleased with the patriot act, hence the numerous lawsuits filed against it by not only civil rights groups but also private companies.
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11-11-2010, 09:17 AM
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You have no problem answering her question based on something you saw on a TV show but when I chime in you spew this. LOL.
"lil miss, lil miss, lil miss can't be wrong.."
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A) Sarcasm and B) what exactly are you basing your opinion on since you're not a lawyer either?
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11-11-2010, 01:46 AM
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have they taken it down already?
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11-11-2010, 02:23 AM
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I was seriously picturing this book as one of those Dateline set-ups where you order it and Chris Hansen shows up at your door and says "why don't you have a seat over there?"
To Catch a Predator is hilarious in a weird way.
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11-11-2010, 10:56 AM
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I'm fine with Ama/on selling the book. There's a ton of random shit on Ama/on, from anal beads to ridiculously overpriced engagement rings (see D&R Random thread). As a major bookseller, they SHOULD be standing up for the right to publish or sell whatever the hell books people want to write (content-wise). I'm a little pissed they took it down.
That said, I'm totally not fine with the blatant disregard the author seems to display toward proper grammar and spelling rules. He should be drawn and quartered.
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11-11-2010, 02:15 PM
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Censorship sucks. So does pedophilia. But if I have to protect a pedophile's work in order to protect mine, then I will just have to.
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This.
That sucks that that happened to you Sen.
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I'm fine with Ama/on selling the book. There's a ton of random shit on Ama/on, from anal beads to ridiculously overpriced engagement rings (see D&R Random thread). As a major bookseller, they SHOULD be standing up for the right to publish or sell whatever the hell books people want to write (content-wise). I'm a little pissed they took it down.
That said, I'm totally not fine with the blatant disregard the author seems to display toward proper grammar and spelling rules. He should be drawn and quartered.
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This too.
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11-11-2010, 02:35 PM
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This reminds me a lot of the controversy surrounding a book called "The Turner Diaries." Totally different crime, but similar questions surrounding the boundaries of free speech. It's basically a "how-to" guidebook for a violent uprising of white supremacists that has actually been cited in criminal cases involving... you guessed it: violent crimes committed by white supremacists.
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11-11-2010, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tri deezy
This reminds me a lot of the controversy surrounding a book called "The Turner Diaries." Totally different crime, but similar questions surrounding the boundaries of free speech. It's basically a "how-to" guidebook for a violent uprising of white supremacists that has actually been cited in criminal cases involving... you guessed it: violent crimes committed by white supremacists.
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It's my understanding that "The Turner Diaries" is a fictional novel that has been used as inspiration and/or propaganda piece for white supremacists and people with anti-government sentiments (I've never read it but it's been brought up in some of my classes). It's not a "how-to" guidebook in the sense that the pedophile book is.
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11-11-2010, 09:27 PM
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from anal beads to ridiculously overpriced engagement rings
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In the immortal words of Col. Potter from M*A*S*H, "Both useful items, but hardly interchangeable."
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11-11-2010, 09:53 PM
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In the immortal words of Col. Potter from M*A*S*H, "Both useful items, but hardly interchangeable."
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