Amazon is selling a book for pedophiles

[Leslie Anne]

Ha! They took it down.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Jen

If CreateSpace (the Ama/zon affiliate) works like Lulu, then Ama/zon only gets money when a copy of the book is actually purchased. It can sit for sale on their site for 100 years - they won't get a dime unless someone actually buys it. (They get a percentage of the royalty the author sets for themselves, ie a book with a $5 royalty might net Ama/zon a dollar; four goes to the author.)

And now, thanks to the kerfuffle being made, people are buying it and Ama/zon will now make money.

(Law related question ... how protected are purchasers from law enforcement getting a list of who bought the book?)

They'd need some sort of probable cause. Companies generally don't like giving that information out. /based on much L&O

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

Ha! They took it down.

And, as predicted, I have lost respect for them.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

They'd need some sort of probable cause. Companies generally don't like giving that information out. /based on much L&O

Two werdz...Patriot Act.


They don't need PC for something like this. If the FBI wanted a list of everyone who downloaded/bought this book they'd have it by tomorrow morning. The tracking of sales of certain products( bomb/meth making, child porn) is common in today's world. It's also easier for law enforcement to get a list of everyone who visited greekchat within the last 24 hours as opposed to getting a list of every site Drolefille visited in the last 24 hours.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Two werdz...Patriot Act.


They don't need PC for something like this. If the FBI wanted a list of everyone who downloaded/bought this book they'd have it by tomorrow morning. The tracking of sales of certain products( bomb/meth making, child porn) is common in today's world. It's also easier for law enforcement to get a list of everyone who visited greekchat within the last 24 hours as opposed to getting a list of every site Drolefille visited in the last 24 hours.

I'll defer to an actual lawyer but not to you Where's MC when you need it. Secure servers probably require access from the company and companies don't like giving out customer information as a rule because it makes people less likely to buy from them.

Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx

Boycott Amazon.com For Selling A Book Promoting Pedophilia:


http://www.amazon.com/Pedophiles-Guide-Love-Pleasure-ebook/dp/B0049U4CF6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TW


Amazon Taunting Those Who Disagree With The Book:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B0049U4CF6/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_3?ie=UTF8&index=

Wow, bored tonight or did frodo forget to take his sock off.

[33girl]

Those are customer images, frodo, added by customers. I don't think Amazzon is "taunting" anyone.

[FHwku]

have they taken it down already?

[PiKA2001]

You have no problem answering her question based on something you saw on a TV show but when I chime in you spew this. LOL.

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I'll defer to an actual lawyer but not to you Where's MC when you need it. Secure servers probably require access from the company and companies don't like giving out customer information as a rule because it makes people less likely to buy from them.

"lil miss, lil miss, lil miss can't be wrong.."

Are the people who bought this book well protected from LE from finding out they bought it? Short answer, NO they really aren't.

BUT...
What they can and cannot do with the information gathered or if they can use it in the courts is the question to be answered by a lawyer.

And yes, companies aren't exactly pleased with the patriot act, hence the numerous lawsuits filed against it by not only civil rights groups but also private companies.

[KSUViolet06]

I was seriously picturing this book as one of those Dateline set-ups where you order it and Chris Hansen shows up at your door and says "why don't you have a seat over there?"

To Catch a Predator is hilarious in a weird way.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

You have no problem answering her question based on something you saw on a TV show but when I chime in you spew this. LOL.




"lil miss, lil miss, lil miss can't be wrong.."

A) Sarcasm and B) what exactly are you basing your opinion on since you're not a lawyer either?

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

It's one of those 'downsides to free speech' things that can't really be resolved without placing limits on speech we'd like to protect.

I don't think I've told this story on GC before, but here goes:

A member of Alpha Phi Alpha who disagreed with the content of my first novel and my website abused his position at the school to block my website from any computer on the Howard University server.

I know this to be true because one of his subordinates told me and because some of my subordinates (at the time) were Howard students who couldn't access the site.

Censorship sucks. So does pedophilia. But if I have to protect a pedophile's work in order to protect mine, then I will just have to.

[agzg]

I'm fine with Ama/on selling the book. There's a ton of random shit on Ama/on, from anal beads to ridiculously overpriced engagement rings (see D&R Random thread). As a major bookseller, they SHOULD be standing up for the right to publish or sell whatever the hell books people want to write (content-wise). I'm a little pissed they took it down.

That said, I'm totally not fine with the blatant disregard the author seems to display toward proper grammar and spelling rules. He should be drawn and quartered.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Censorship sucks. So does pedophilia. But if I have to protect a pedophile's work in order to protect mine, then I will just have to.

This.
That sucks that that happened to you Sen.

Originally Posted by agzg

I'm fine with Ama/on selling the book. There's a ton of random shit on Ama/on, from anal beads to ridiculously overpriced engagement rings (see D&R Random thread). As a major bookseller, they SHOULD be standing up for the right to publish or sell whatever the hell books people want to write (content-wise). I'm a little pissed they took it down.

That said, I'm totally not fine with the blatant disregard the author seems to display toward proper grammar and spelling rules. He should be drawn and quartered.

This too.

[tri deezy]

This reminds me a lot of the controversy surrounding a book called "The Turner Diaries." Totally different crime, but similar questions surrounding the boundaries of free speech. It's basically a "how-to" guidebook for a violent uprising of white supremacists that has actually been cited in criminal cases involving... you guessed it: violent crimes committed by white supremacists.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by tri deezy

This reminds me a lot of the controversy surrounding a book called "The Turner Diaries." Totally different crime, but similar questions surrounding the boundaries of free speech. It's basically a "how-to" guidebook for a violent uprising of white supremacists that has actually been cited in criminal cases involving... you guessed it: violent crimes committed by white supremacists.

It's my understanding that "The Turner Diaries" is a fictional novel that has been used as inspiration and/or propaganda piece for white supremacists and people with anti-government sentiments (I've never read it but it's been brought up in some of my classes). It's not a "how-to" guidebook in the sense that the pedophile book is.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by agzg

from anal beads to ridiculously overpriced engagement rings

In the immortal words of Col. Potter from M*A*S*H, "Both useful items, but hardly interchangeable."