Do high ranked frats allow Asians? - Page 2

knight_shadow · #16 10-22-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Must we really be so nasty to the OP? He is a clueless high schooler, obviously, but it is entirely valid to be concerned about how fraternities may view a non-white. Keep in mind that many national orgs discriminated very openly at points in their history.

When did he say that he was a high school student?

33girl · #17 10-22-2010, 11:30 AM

Allow Asians to what?

knight_shadow · #18 10-22-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Miriverite

^ the hippie Austin society. They are a fairly liberal city, if you hang around the right neighbourhoods.

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

Oh ok, thanks. The right neighborhoods of the hippie part of the fairly liberal city of Austin is not "Texas society."

Actually, EE-BO wasn't too far off. The cities in the Texas Triangle have a "don't bother me and I won't bother you" attitude for the most part (race relations and religion). That region makes up 75% of Texas' population. It's the other 25% that's a bit iffy.

Austin has a reputation of being a liberal oasis in the conservative desert that is Texas, but in reality, it's not any more liberal than the larger cities in the state.

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jimmy13 · #19 10-22-2010, 11:44 AM

thanks, I got it now guys =D

So now were on the topic of ranking and tiers...

Im pretty much joining to get job and intership hookups later on so I can get a bad ass job + have fun at the same time.

Is that the right idea? And would a Higher Tier frat give better job hookups for higher salaries?

and lastly, Delta Tau Delta, ATO, Kappa Sig at UT. How are these ones? Are there any on this list I should avoid? Are the people all stuck up arrogant D-Bags?

thanks!

knight_shadow · #20 10-22-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy13

thanks, I got it now guys =D

So now were on the topic of ranking and tiers...

Im pretty much joining to get job and intership hookups later on so I can get a bad ass job + have fun at the same time.

Is that the right idea? And would a Higher Tier frat give better job hookups for higher salaries?

and lastly, Delta Tau Delta, ATO, Kappa Sig at UT. How are these ones? Are there any on this list I should avoid? Are the people all stuck up arrogant D-Bags?

thanks!

You're not guaranteed a job based on your Greek affiliation. And unless you work for a chapter brother or something, your affiliation isn't going to get you a higher salary.

Please read some of the threads in this forum so you can get a better understanding of what Greek life entails.

DrPhil · #21 10-22-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

The cities in the Texas Triangle have a "don't bother me and I won't bother you" attitude for the most part (race relations and religion).

You do know that "don't bother me and I won't bother you" isn't the same thing as tolerance and non-discrimination, right? It means that everyone can get along as long as they stay out of each other's way. As soon as you get in someone's way (i.e. a minority joining a fraternity chapter that isn't ready for that) that's when there's a problem.

knight_shadow · #22 10-22-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

You do know that "don't bother me and I won't bother you" isn't the same thing as tolerance and non-discrimination, right? It means that everyone can get along as long as they stay out of each other's way. As soon as you get in someone's way (i.e. a minority joining a fraternity chapter that isn't ready for that) that's when there's a problem.

I should've been more clear.

What I meant was as long as you're not trying to force your beliefs on others, no one cares what you do. If you want to be Buddhist, go ahead -- that's your prerogative. If you want to be in an interracial relationship -- that's all you. I didn't mean it as "as long as you people stay out of my neighborhood, we won't have problems!" or anything like that.

pearlbubbles · #23 10-22-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy13

thanks, I got it now guys =D

So now were on the topic of ranking and tiers...

I'm pretty much joining to get job and internship hookups later on so I can get a bad ass job + have fun at the same time.

Is that the right idea? And would a Higher Tier frat give better job hookups for higher salaries?

and lastly, Delta Tau Delta, ATO, Kappa Sig at UT. How are these ones? Are there any on this list I should avoid? Are the people all stuck up arrogant D-Bags?

thanks!

I'm pretty sure that the best thing that will get you a good job/internships is your grades, since college is about academics, or at least it is the last time I checked.

I think your best bet for figuring out which guys are great--or, alternatively, which guys are not so great--is to just go out there and meet them.

rhoyaltempest · #24 10-22-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy13

thanks, I got it now guys =D

So now were on the topic of ranking and tiers...

Im pretty much joining to get job and intership hookups later on so I can get a bad ass job + have fun at the same time.

Is that the right idea? And would a Higher Tier frat give better job hookups for higher salaries?

and lastly, Delta Tau Delta, ATO, Kappa Sig at UT. How are these ones? Are there any on this list I should avoid? Are the people all stuck up arrogant D-Bags?

thanks!

No. And you might want to look around at some other threads before continuing to post on this matter. You are heading in the direction of offending some of the very members whose help you're asking for, if you haven't already.

Psi U MC Vito · #25 10-22-2010, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy13

thanks, I got it now guys =D

So now were on the topic of ranking and tiers...

Im pretty much joining to get job and intership hookups later on so I can get a bad ass job + have fun at the same time.

Is that the right idea? And would a Higher Tier frat give better job hookups for higher salaries?

and lastly, Delta Tau Delta, ATO, Kappa Sig at UT. How are these ones? Are there any on this list I should avoid? Are the people all stuck up arrogant D-Bags?

thanks!

First off, the problem with tiers is that they are specific to the school. Nobody is going to look at you when you graduate and think "Oh he joined a top tier chapter. Let's hire him." And honestly while networking is part of the Greek experience, it is secondary or even tertiary to the main purpose. And would you really want to be in a fraternity you do not fit in just because they are "top Tier" something that changes all the time anyway?

DrPhil · #26 10-22-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I should've been more clear.

What I meant was as long as you're not trying to force your beliefs on others, no one cares what you do. If you want to be Buddhist, go ahead -- that's your prerogative. If you want to be in an interracial relationship -- that's all you. I didn't mean it as "as long as you people stay out of my neighborhood, we won't have problems!" or anything like that.

Realistically, it's probably more along the lines of what I said. It's your prerogative until you seek more depth in terms of interaction. That's when people confuse real integration (not surface level integration) with forcing your beliefs on someone.

knight_shadow · #27 10-22-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

Realistically, it's probably more along the lines of what I said. It's your prerogative until you seek more depth in terms of interaction. That's when people confuse real integration (not surface level integration) with forcing your beliefs on someone.

I suppose.

I do know that all of the large Texas cities (and most Sunbelt cities) are are filled with transplants from more 'tolerant' areas of the US, and they bring their progressive values with them. I was just making the point that Austin is not the lone ranger when it comes to liberal thinking in Texas.

I see what you're saying, though. It's never just skin deep (pun intended).

DeltaBetaBaby · #28 10-22-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy13

thanks, I got it now guys =D

So now were on the topic of ranking and tiers...

Im pretty much joining to get job and intership hookups later on so I can get a bad ass job + have fun at the same time.

Is that the right idea? And would a Higher Tier frat give better job hookups for higher salaries?

and lastly, Delta Tau Delta, ATO, Kappa Sig at UT. How are these ones? Are there any on this list I should avoid? Are the people all stuck up arrogant D-Bags?

thanks!

Okay, I stand corrected. Please go ahead and mock the OP.

DrPhil · #29 10-22-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I suppose.

I do know that all of the large Texas cities (and most Sunbelt cities) are are filled with transplants from more 'tolerant' areas of the US, and they bring their progressive values with them. I was just making the point that Austin is not the lone ranger when it comes to liberal thinking in Texas.

I see what you're saying, though. It's never just skin deep (pun intended).

Excellent pun.

Such progression is always better in theory than in practice. That also goes for the more "tolerant" areas of the U.S. that are still very segregated by race and ethnicity.

knight_shadow · #30 10-22-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

Excellent pun.

Such progression is always better in theory than in practice. That also goes for the more "tolerant" areas of the U.S. that are still very segregated by race and ethnicity.

True. Except I'd switch out race/ethnicity with socio-economic standing.

Actually, I just said that to irk you

I like this conversation better than the original topic at hand.