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07-28-2010, 06:22 PM
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I want to join kappa alpha psi. My current university you only need a 2.0 to go through intake. There were some akas at my school who didn't have a 2.5 and crossed. I figured the 2.5 was a soft minimum
I'm also going into my junior year
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Correction. At your current university, a minimum of a 2.0 is required for intake. If an organization's national GPA is higher, they will not lower their standards; however, if the school requires a minimum GPA higher than the organization's, the organization will abide by the school's GPA requirement for the chapter at that school.
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07-28-2010, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by thebest09
I want to join kappa alpha psi. My current university you only need a 2.0 to go through intake. There were some akas at my school who didn't have a 2.5 and crossed. I figured the 2.5 was a soft minimum
I'm also going into my junior year
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This isn't related to the type of fraternity/sorority you are joining (NPHC, NPC, MC, etc.), but is a general question about balancing your academics with a potentially time-consuming membership. (So I don't think that it's swerving).
You're a junior with a 2.492 average. Do you work in addition to attending school? Do you have a demanding course load? Do you have other time commitments that affect your academic performance?
I'm not asking for "excuses", but what do you think the reasons are why your GPA is low er? Are these circumstances under your control? Outside of your interests in Greek membership, do you have a desire and plan to improve your grades? In other words, what is lacking or happening that is preventing you from getting better grades, and what can you do to improve your grades? What would/can you do to maintain those grades if you were given the opportunity to take on the commitment of membership?
Not to sound like a bad pun, but the GPA line may be much less malleable than a line in the sand. Some in the know have suggested that there may be little to no wiggle room or rounding up. So what can/will you do to earn better grades?
(We often ask women who are re-rushing after unsuccessful recruitments what they have done to improve themselves for the next time around, so this is kind of the same question.)
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07-28-2010, 06:54 PM
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I've always looked at minimum GPAs as scraping the very bottom of the worst possible barrel. Some folks apparently see it as the beginning of negotiations. If you don't have the GPA maybe it's simply not the right time to pursue membership.
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07-28-2010, 07:00 PM
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I've always looked at minimum GPAs as scraping the very bottom of the worst possible barrel. Some folks apparently see it as the beginning of negotiations. If you don't have the GPA maybe it's simply not the right time to pursue membership.
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I need to talk about your flair.
JOANNA
Really? I have 15 buttons on. I, uh, (shows him)
STAN
Well, ok, 15 is minimum, ok?
JOANNA
Ok.
STAN
Now, it's up to you whether or not you want to just do the bare
minimum. Well, like Brian, for example, has 37 pieces of flair. And a
terrific smile.
JOANNA
Ok. Ok, you want me to wear more?
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Look. Joanna.
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It's about fun.
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Ok. So, more then?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Great. Great. That's all I ask.
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Ok.
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07-29-2010, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ree-Xi
This isn't related to the type of fraternity/sorority you are joining (NPHC, NPC, MC, etc.), but is a general question about balancing your academics with a potentially time-consuming membership. (So I don't think that it's swerving).
You're a junior with a 2.492 average. Do you work in addition to attending school? Do you have a demanding course load? Do you have other time commitments that affect your academic performance?
I'm not asking for "excuses", but what do you think the reasons are why your GPA is lower? Are these circumstances under your control? Outside of your interests in Greek membership, do you have a desire and plan to improve your grades? In other words, what is lacking or happening that is preventing you from getting better grades, and what can you do to improve your grades? What would/can you do to maintain those grades if you were given the opportunity to take on the commitment of membership?
Not to sound like a bad pun, but the GPA line may be much less malleable than a line in the sand. Some in the know have suggested that there may be little to no wiggle room or rounding up. So what can/will you do to earn better grades?
(We often ask women who are re-rushing after unsuccessful recruitments what they have done to improve themselves for the next time around, so this is kind of the same question.)
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Yeah i do work. I work in the resident halls as the information guide. we basically just get paid to sit there but we get to do homework and stuff while working. This upcoming semester I was only taking 4 classes so it wouldnt be any load. honestly I usually get B's and C's in my classes. Ive never failed a class and Ive gotta 1 D in my 2 years. My grandmother died last august which effected me.
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07-28-2010, 05:44 PM
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I am pursuing a divine nine fraternity and the minimum gpa is 2.5 and I have a 2.492 do you think they would be able to make an exception since im only .008 away
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NO WAY!
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07-28-2010, 05:47 PM
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NO WAY!
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08-04-2010, 11:06 AM
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best09
IMHO, with your G.P.A. you should spend your time, money and energy being a student and raising your grades to enhance your future job and grad school opportunities rather than worrying about membership intake. Unless you are working full time, have a double major in physics and math and a minor in chemistry, active in several service orgs on campus, going to school full time and helping support your family, optimally no org should take you seriously as a potential candidate. And to have a casuistic attitude about grades as an entry requirement to boot...
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08-04-2010, 12:05 PM
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Unless you are working full time, have a double major in physics and math and a minor in chemistry
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lol
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optimally no org should take you seriously as a potential candidate
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Well dayum.
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08-04-2010, 12:37 PM
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Am I right in stating that pre-pledging is kind of the equivalent of doing the hot guy's homework in hopes that he'll notice you, and then when prom time comes around, he asks out the beautiful dumb girl instead?
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07-28-2010, 06:15 PM
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I'm really cool with the guys in the chapter. I've heard nationals will take you if have atleast a 2.47. The chapter at my school is small. It's only 3 on the yard
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07-28-2010, 06:21 PM
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I'm really cool with the guys in the chapter. I've heard nationals will take you if have atleast a 2.47. The chapter at my school is small. It's only 3 on the yard
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I will tell you right now....don't do it.
I will be nice and throw you some good advice.
Get your grades right.
What you heard and reality is not the same. You are on the other side of the Greek world, you see only what we want you to see...and as advice, unless you have actually gotten information from whoever in the Alumni organization that is over intake I would not take a gamble on this.
Believe me.
This is your only warning. This is a gamble most people lose.
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07-29-2010, 03:52 PM
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"Information desk" isn't considered work... especially if you're saying you can sit there and do homework while you're on the job. And - not to be insensitive - unless you were called to sort out her will or something, having a grandmother die should not drag your GPA all the way down below satisfactory. If you wanna join the game, you gotta do the work. Best of luck.
EDIT: I'm sorry if I came off a little heartless. I understand that the death of a family member can (and should) bring grief for a period of time. However, I am adamantly against using it as an excuse for a low GPA to get exceptions. If you were really focused on joining a fraternity or getting your GPA up, then it is possible. After all, I'm sure your grandmother would have wanted to see you excel in school, so the best way to honour her memory is to pick yourself up and try the best you can. Again, I apologize if I came off really harsh - I definitely have issues with being too blunt, both online and in-person.
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07-29-2010, 04:13 PM
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And - not to be insensitive - unless you were called to sort out her will or something, having a grandmother die should not drag your GPA all the way down below satisfactory.
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I disagree and you are being insensitive. You don't know how his grandmother's passing impacted him.
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07-29-2010, 04:21 PM
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I disagree and you are being insensitive. You don't know how his grandmother's passing impacted him.
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I agree with this disagree.
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"Information desk" isn't considered work... especially if you're saying you can sit there and do homework while you're on the job.
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Should have stopped right there.
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