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Old 04-02-2010, 02:26 AM
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33girl, I tried to PM you twice. My sent messages still says zero though. I'm not sure if you're getting them, but I don't want to plug up your inbox in case you are. Please let me know.
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Old 04-02-2010, 06:22 AM
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I wouldn't know why, she's airing a problem that needs remedied (the favortism during rush) and that she did not create.
I guess this goes to the heart of my original question in this thread. Is it a problem or are these girls going to assume it would be a problem because she's young and "over enthusiastic" and has certain powers (that all GL Advisors have). When reading the OP I felt like it was full of she could do ABC and XYZ but the OP never said this woman actually has actually done something against the rules, in favor of a group already on campus, etc.

I think where sigmaceli is saying, is that despite the fact that she thinks she may be anonymous, she has in fact affected the situation should said GL Advisor be able to figure it out/find this thread. As such, particularly if this woman is supposed to be as horrible as she seems to be trying to make it out to be, anon5 has posted herself/her chapter/all the chapters on campus as having an issue with this woman without having gone through the appropriate channels. If her current actions are so suspect, then shouldn't Panhel approach her in an appropriate (read non GC) fashion with their concerns. If issues are still existing then shouldn't they have gone to her supervisor to air their grievances? And this is all assuming there are grievances to air and not a bunch of assumptions of things she could/might/have yet to do.
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Old 04-02-2010, 11:12 AM
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Please remember what it was like to be a collegian. You're afraid sometimes of approaching the person directly for fear the situation will get worse. This GA IS doing things that she shouldn't be - choosing rooms for recruitment just by her preference (this should be done via lottery) and a couple other things that were shared w/ me via pm. (anon5, I got it, thanks ) These things have occurred, she isn't just "proposing" it.

I have the feeling that even if this GA read this whole thread, she'd have NO CLUE it was her anyway. People like that are rarely very self-aware. If her boss sees it and calls her on it, cool beans. It doesn't sound like the collegians approaching her on their own would make a dent.
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Old 04-02-2010, 12:13 PM
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Please remember what it was like to be a collegian. You're afraid sometimes of approaching the person directly for fear the situation will get worse.
That wasn't my collegiate experience. And it isn't an NPC vs. NPHC thing.

Some things only happen because people are suffering in silence. This gives the person in question way more power and influence than the person would have if people would respectfully confront the person directly and/or go to the "powers that be" (which aren't difficult to find and access) and handle it. TRYING to make a dent is always better than just typing about it on GC and assuming that you won't/can't make a dent.

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Old 04-02-2010, 01:05 PM
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anon, have you all entlisted your alumnae advisors to speak with the greek life advisor? or the national officer directly over your chapter advisors?
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Old 04-02-2010, 01:16 PM
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This GA IS doing things that she shouldn't be - choosing rooms for recruitment just by her preference (this should be done via lottery)These things have occurred, she isn't just "proposing" it.
The situation makes a bit more sense, but I still think the OP is putting herself, her chapter and the other sororities on her campus "at risk" so to speak. We have a bit of information about the situation, 20 something GA, where her GA chooses "chapter rooms" during recruitment, and the campus can possibly open up for expansion soon. Given that information, sorority leadership/campus based Greek leadership has easy knowledge via networking, professional groups, etc. to narrow down the list.

I agree with Dr. Phil, this was not my experience as a collegian. And if the rooms should be given out based on lottery, where is panhel/the sorority leadership at with respect to voicing their concern? The OP indicates that her sentiments are widespread in her Greek community, a the very least among the sororities, so isn't part of Panhel's role to address this concern.
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Old 04-02-2010, 07:17 PM
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Alright, just to clarify my last post, I referred to "Big Sister" in the metaphorical 1984 sense. Not the OP's big sister. I can see where that wouldn't make any sense, lol.

Continuing my response, ch2tf, you said exactly what I was thinking and are way more eloquent. I don't believe that I have a "low threshold for dirt," or that the OP's concerns are not valid in any way. But there is a better way to remedy the situation in this case. I think it's great that the OP has been able to confide in you about her situation, but this really is not a convo for the Internet.

And as for additional posters in similar situations who are already in the extension process who have taken it upon themselves to be the GC rep. for their institution's proceedings, well, I feel being so vocal about those issues can make things more difficult to fix.

Dr. Phil, I agree with you in the fact that the best course of action is to turn to the powers that be regarding this - chapter advisors, the Panhellenic Council/Association and NHQ representatives are the ones who have the power to remedy the situation, regardless of whether the campus opens for extension or not. There is obvious concern in the entire community regarding LOTS of issues, and they need to take action to rectify the situation rather than let it get worst.

Regardless of all this, I am not on that campus and I can't make assumptions. So, anon5, I wish you the best of luck in the situation; I encourage you to see what you can do to empower positive change in your community before it's open for extension, making it more difficult to see the results that you and your community want. Read the NPC Manual of Information (Green Book) to understand what your rights are as a chapter and as a Panhellenic Council. Talk to your chapter leadership and see if they can make partnerships to take control of your Greek community.
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Old 04-02-2010, 08:33 PM
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Alright, just to clarify my last post, I referred to "Big Sister" in the metaphorical 1984 sense. Not the OP's big sister. I can see where that wouldn't make any sense, lol.
Good grief. Did you honestly think I didn't get that???? SMH.
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Old 04-02-2010, 11:05 PM
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Old 04-06-2010, 11:16 AM
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i find it hard to believe in this day and time, when jobs are so difficult to come by, that someone would jeopardize her job by working every angle, even bending or breaking rules to get her sorority on campus.
Just as an aside, tone-deaf and foolish people have continued to jeopardize their jobs right and left through this recession, even as their co-workers are laid off around them. Speaking from personal observation. I don't know if that's the case with this Greek advisor, but the recession doesn't make it any less plausible to me.
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