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10-05-2009, 02:25 PM
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Don't worry about Kevin. He is a little douchbag. Other cities like LA are having the same problem. One of the unclaimed also had relatives in Florida that did not have money for a funeral. The article says NOTHING about unions.
Detroit was a slum long before the recent problems with the Big 3. The real problem in Detroit is the blacks and a 24% graduation rate.
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10-05-2009, 02:52 PM
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The racism and pro-union postings kind of gave it away, didn't they?
I'm wondering why he/she is posting under all these different usernames.
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10-05-2009, 09:27 PM
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The racism and pro-union postings kind of gave it away, didn't they?
I'm wondering why he/she is posting under all these different usernames.
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10-05-2009, 02:43 PM
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The real problem in Detroit is the blacks and a 24% graduation rate.
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*mutters to self* its only the internet....
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10-01-2009, 04:32 PM
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. Meanwhile, the South, which is largely anti-union is doing just fine.
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You mind giving that news to the last 6 non-union, Southern native plumbers my Charlotte, NC company just laid off?
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10-01-2009, 05:01 PM
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You mind giving that news to the last 6 non-union, Southern native plumbers my Charlotte, NC company just laid off?
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You're old enough to know the difference between statistical fact and anecdotal fact.
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10-01-2009, 05:14 PM
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You're old enough to know the difference between statistical fact and anecdotal fact.
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We had a bid recently with 27 plumbing companies from 4 different states. You must have 3 bidders to open bids. Three years ago, I spent more time going to bids that didn't get opened than anything else. It's not just my company. It's worse in Detroit, but the South is not "just fine".
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10-01-2009, 05:37 PM
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organ donors should be buried for free. maybe then, more people would become donors. along the lines of charity and public service, i would rank organ donating up there with any living personal sacrifice.
if someone in my hometown needed money for a funeral the community or a church would take a collection. if they did something notable, heroic, or tragic, they would probably get a "...has set up a fund for the family...donations can be made at Kroger's or any First Fifth Bank."
why do they have to cremate the bodies in Detroit? can't they just get a pauper's funeral? it's dignified and inexpensive. not just a cardboard coffin and a hole in the ground.
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10-01-2009, 06:32 PM
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We had a bid recently with 27 plumbing companies from 4 different states. You must have 3 bidders to open bids. Three years ago, I spent more time going to bids that didn't get opened than anything else. It's not just my company. It's worse in Detroit, but the South is not "just fine".
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I suppose it depends on what you're doing and what part of the South you're in. The fact of the matter is that domestic manufacturing is getting the hell out of hostile places like Michigan and going to places where it can actually be profitable. Plumbers and pipefitters will, I'm sure be indirect beneficiaries of that move if they are fortunate enough to be close to the new plants.
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10-02-2009, 12:45 PM
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You're old enough to know the difference between statistical fact and anecdotal fact.
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Isn't it a statistical fact that the sales of Toyota and Nissan dropped just like the Big 3's sales dropped?
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10-02-2009, 01:16 PM
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Isn't it a statistical fact that the sales of Toyota and Nissan dropped just like the Big 3's sales dropped?
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Everyone's sales dropped. Not everyone had to file for bankruptcy.
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10-02-2009, 12:34 AM
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This is nothing special really. Folks all over the place don't have the cash to pay for their relatives' cremations. Detroit's not special in that regard.
The city pretty much collapsed under its own weight, putting all its eggs in one basket, lead by greedy unions, manufacturers who made crappy cars and corrupt politicians.
This'd be a losing formula anywhere and the city is getting what it deserves. Meanwhile, the South, which is largely anti-union is doing just fine. While UAW plants in Michigan keep closing, new ones are taking their place all over the South.
Michigan can either make the decision to get competitive or it continue to be left behind.
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It's not about Detroit being "special in that regard." Honestly your post is disgusting. I'm not from Detroit, but I feel a great amount of sympathy for that kind of situation. It must be heartbreaking not to be able to afford to bury a loved one. The sad thing is that so many people feel the way you do which is what is truly wrong with society today. This post says a great deal about you and none of it is good.
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10-02-2009, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
This is nothing special really. Folks all over the place don't have the cash to pay for their relatives' cremations. Detroit's not special in that regard.
The city pretty much collapsed under its own weight, putting all its eggs in one basket, lead by greedy unions, manufacturers who made crappy cars and corrupt politicians.
This'd be a losing formula anywhere and the city is getting what it deserves. Meanwhile, the South, which is largely anti-union is doing just fine. While UAW plants in Michigan keep closing, new ones are taking their place all over the South.
Michigan can either make the decision to get competitive or it continue to be left behind.
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Is the south is doing just fine? Aren't half the condos in Miami sitting empty? How about Chicago, NY, and Boston which are largely UNION? How are those areas doing? Are there entire developements sitting empty like in Miami and Mexifornia?
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10-02-2009, 01:57 PM
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Michigan can either make the decision to get competitive or it continue to be left behind.
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How do you compete with $1/day labor?
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10-02-2009, 02:02 PM
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How do you compete with $1/day labor?
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Is that what they're paying in Indiana?
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