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Originally Posted by AGDee
I was going to post something here, talk a little bit about some other stuff going on here right now and then I read Kevin's post and, well.. I just can't even respond to that. Clearly this topic is much too personal to me.
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I agree. Kevin's comment is disgusting. I hope he and his family NEVER have to go through what we are going through. Whether you are still wealthy or have lost a great deal of money because of this, we're all in this together.
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Originally Posted by KSigkid
I'm starting to think that the Detroit situation is something that just can't be discussed on a board like this.
On one side you have people who don't have a lot of sympathy/empathy for the situation, either because a) they see people and businesses in their own areas that are struggling, or b) they have issues with the way the automotive business was run prior to the collapse.
Then, you have people from the Detroit area who (understandably) are sensitive and a bit defensive about the situation. They have allegiances to the automotive industry, or to the unions, or to some part of the situation.
I'm not saying either side is right or wrong, but I just think it's impossible to have any sort of reasonable conversation about it in this type of forum.
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Not everyone in Detroit has an allegiance to unions. My family went from well-off to "oh shit" and not one person in my immediate family has worked for unions. Actually, my dad got screwed over by the laborer's union. And you know what? We've been affected. That's what sucks most about this. It's not just people who worked in the automotive industry. It's lawyers, doctors, laborers, landlords, strippers (yes strippers), EVERYONE in Detroit has been affected and it really fucking sucks. So understand THIS, to hear someone say that we deserve what we're getting, is disgusting and heart breaking. I didn't deserve to get a bachelor's degree and not be able to get a job. My dad who worked his ass off and has always contributed to society from the moment he stepped off the boat (plane) and was never part of a union, didn't deserve this. The family with 2 children two houses down from me didn't deserve to have their house taken away by the bank.
And the easy answer that I'm sure my response will get? Move to another state. And what does that solve? Nothing. Moving costs money anyways. These people have no money. No jobs. People are becoming homeless. People who aren't your usual lazy bum cannot feed and clothe their families. So YOU tell me what they did to deserve this.
It's people like you guys who make people like me feel worthless. Like it's our fault that Detroit is crashing down around us and there's nothing we can do about it. My heart aches for those people who can't afford to bury their loved one. We buried my uncle in January and I watched my parents, aunts and uncles struggle to find money to do it. It is SO expensive but it's something that must be done.
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