Tri Delta chapter at Miami suspended - Page 2

PGD-GRAD · #16 02-23-2009, 06:38 PM

So blindfolding them and having them drink until they were ill is making them feel, "welcomed and special," huh? That young lady who is president must be a PR major to come up with that spin--there is no way anyone should defend that type of behavior--unless she did not have all the facts before she spoke. Or, perhaps she was not told the truth; still, most officers are told that--in the case of extreme emergency or risk management--to refer all questions to an advisor or headquarters.

srmom · #17 02-23-2009, 07:09 PM

All I can say is WOW! I can see fraternities doing that, but sororities? Our idea of making pledges feel welcome and special was giving them copious amounts of candy. I guess if they were sugar intolerant, it could have been hazing...

I'd say drinking til you puke publicly would make one feel special but in a bad way.

If all this is true, then they should have gotten the boot.

Benzgirl · #18 02-23-2009, 08:32 PM

There are chapters at Miami that I would believe would do this, but the Tri Delts are not one of them. It's really sad what happened, since they are the second oldest chapter on campus.

Kevin · #19 02-23-2009, 09:27 PM

FYI: I just deleted two posts which were discussing events not described in any article I read as if said events happened. C'mon folks, we can do better than that. We all know that a lot of unsubstantiated crap goes into where you found that information and how that's not really appropriate for GC.

The posts have been saved, so if there's something (real) to substantiate that discussion, lay it on me.

Blue Skies · #20 02-23-2009, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srmom

What in the world did they do?

It seems crazy that a group of women did "something" to make the pledges feel "welcomed and special" and it was sooooo bad that after a "near century" of avoiding any serious issues, they got the BOOT???

What the heck?

I'm thinking that it wasn't a scavenger hunt.

PGD-GRAD · #21 02-23-2009, 11:07 PM

Kevin,
Before you jerk posts and "scold" posters for referring to "unsubstantiated crap," please read the Cincy. Post article that exlurker posted today. It absolutely lays out the violation and refers to Miami officials as sources.

If you have a problem with that article, delete it; if not, don't go after us and make us feel that we made something up. Most of us post after referring to substantiated facts that, often, are made available by a prior post.

Again, I don't know which articles you read that "did not discuss the event" that two of us posted on, but I believe that Post article explains just why there was a two-year suspension. What you should boot is any reference to that ridiculous "welcomed and special" quote--now THAT is crap given what really happened.

Jimmy Choo · #22 02-23-2009, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tri deezy

VERY interesting commentary at the bottom. It is sad that they're just two years short of celebrating their centennial

It obviously won't be the same in two years when they're allowed back. The comments suggest that the chapter is the biggest contributing chapter to St. Jude. I do agree that the punishment is really harsh. It will be so difficult to recover from a two year suspension- imagine recruitment in 2011.... It think that both the school and EO were trying to make an example out of the chapter.

Agree 100%

Kevin · #23 02-23-2009, 11:43 PM

My bad. Earlier today I read one of the posted articles which did not refer to the violations. These things I thought were rumors were posted in the comments part of the story which, IMHO, is about as useful as something which would appear on JC. Having not read that info in the story of wherever I was reading and in the comments, I just figured that it was a rumor. I was clearly wrong.

I've reinstated your posts and I apologize for getting one wrong. I guarantee it'll happen again.

Erindeltabeta · #24 02-24-2009, 03:30 AM

I just got a letter today from the national office about this. I am extremely disappointed in the conduct that led to the suspension of our chapter and its dishonor. These kinds of things are tough to come back from and I am sorry that those involved did not give their actions more thought.

PGD-GRAD · #25 02-24-2009, 08:19 AM

Thanks, Kevin. I didn't mean to jump on you--I just really try not to post with hearsay as a back-up. In your position, you try to be as fair as possible to all concerned--that is how it should be! Nice job always!

AOII Angel · #26 02-24-2009, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erindeltabeta

I just got a letter today from the national office about this. I am extremely disappointed in the conduct that led to the suspension of our chapter and its dishonor. These kinds of things are tough to come back from and I am sorry that those involved did not give their actions more thought.

I'm sorry your chapter is closed, Erin. It can't be easy to lose your chapter, especially so close to the centennial. It really is disappointing that some collegians can't see how their actions can impact 100 years of history. They let down their innocent sisters, new members and 98 years worth of alums. Hopefully other chapters of every sorority will learn from this...even a long history won't save you from sanctions.

LaneSig · #27 02-24-2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I'm sorry your chapter is closed, Erin. It can't be easy to lose your chapter, especially so close to the centennial. It really is disappointing that some collegians can't see how their actions can impact 100 years of history. They let down their innocent sisters, new members and 98 years worth of alums. Hopefully other chapters of every sorority will learn from this...even a long history won't save you from sanctions.

Preface: I am not criticizing Delta Delta Delta National HQ or any other group.

This is what is bothering me: According to Miami's Fall Grade Report, Tri Delta had 104 members. How many actually took the sisters and broke RMF? Was it sanctioned by the chapter? It was certainly the wrong thing to do, but it is bothering me that a chapter with 98 years of history is shut down due to a handfull of actives. Why couldn't they have had a membership review? Punish the sisters who committed the infraction (early alumn status or expulsion), let the sisters who didn't have anything to do with it stay active, and let the pledges go on to become actives.

To be honest, I had the same questions last year with Sigma Sigma Sigma's decision to close their Missouri State chapter and Alpha Kappa Lambda's decision to suspend their Truman State chapter for 2 years.

Again, I am not trying to criticize, just question.

AOII Angel · #28 02-24-2009, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaneSig

Preface: I am not criticizing Delta Delta Delta National HQ or any other group.

This is what is bothering me: According to Miami's Fall Grade Report, Tri Delta had 104 members. How many actually took the sisters and broke RMF? Was it sanctioned by the chapter? It was certainly the wrong thing to do, but it is bothering me that a chapter with 98 years of history is shut down due to a handfull of actives. Why couldn't they have had a membership review? Punish the sisters who committed the infraction (early alumn status or expulsion), let the sisters who didn't have anything to do with it stay active, and let the pledges go on to become actives.

To be honest, I had the same questions last year with Sigma Sigma Sigma's decision to close their Missouri State chapter and Alpha Kappa Lambda's decision to suspend their Truman State chapter for 2 years.

Again, I am not trying to criticize, just question.

I've gotta tell you that it's not just the NPC groups that are being tough on drinking infractions. If you remember, 6 of the 8 sororities at Towson were put on probation for one or two members in each group drinking on bid day. The vast majority of the members in these chapters were completely innocent, but Towson imposed major probation restrictions like no social activities of any sort for nearly a year. No hazing was involved and each guilty member was sanctioned individually as well. I'm not saying that all of this isn't overboard, but it appears to be the current climate.

ForeverRoses · #29 02-24-2009, 12:59 PM

I sorry that the chapter closed.

I am curious, what happens to the pledges/new members. They obiviously wanted to be in a greek org, which is now gone for 2 years. They have yet been initiated, so they aren't unaffiliated collegate members (I think that's the term Tri Delt used), so are they just SOL? Can they re-rush another group, or are they bound by the 1 year rule? I feel worse for them than the actives. At least the actives can still become active alumna members.

33girl · #30 02-24-2009, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

If you remember, 6 of the 8 sororities at Towson were put on probation for one or two members in each group drinking on bid day. The vast majority of the members in these chapters were completely innocent, but Towson imposed major probation restrictions like no social activities of any sort for nearly a year. No hazing was involved and each guilty member was sanctioned individually as well. I'm not saying that all of this isn't overboard, but it appears to be the current climate.

Remembering that story, IMO it seems like Towson wanted to break the cycle of turning their heads to violations that had been going on for years and just did it all in one fell swoop. Like you get so annoyed with the mess on your desk that you just chuck it all instead of going through it carefully. I'm not saying the offenses weren't punishable, but from what you & other people said it just seemed like it was hands-off for years and then giant crackdown.

ForeverRoses - since the chapter has closed their pledge to DDD is broken and they can re-rush another sorority immediately. Whether they want to or how this would go over is another story.