Tri Delta chapter at Miami suspended

[LaneSig]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I'm sorry your chapter is closed, Erin. It can't be easy to lose your chapter, especially so close to the centennial. It really is disappointing that some collegians can't see how their actions can impact 100 years of history. They let down their innocent sisters, new members and 98 years worth of alums. Hopefully other chapters of every sorority will learn from this...even a long history won't save you from sanctions.

Preface: I am not criticizing Delta Delta Delta National HQ or any other group.

This is what is bothering me: According to Miami's Fall Grade Report, Tri Delta had 104 members. How many actually took the sisters and broke RMF? Was it sanctioned by the chapter? It was certainly the wrong thing to do, but it is bothering me that a chapter with 98 years of history is shut down due to a handfull of actives. Why couldn't they have had a membership review? Punish the sisters who committed the infraction (early alumn status or expulsion), let the sisters who didn't have anything to do with it stay active, and let the pledges go on to become actives.

To be honest, I had the same questions last year with Sigma Sigma Sigma's decision to close their Missouri State chapter and Alpha Kappa Lambda's decision to suspend their Truman State chapter for 2 years.

Again, I am not trying to criticize, just question.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

Preface: I am not criticizing Delta Delta Delta National HQ or any other group.

This is what is bothering me: According to Miami's Fall Grade Report, Tri Delta had 104 members. How many actually took the sisters and broke RMF? Was it sanctioned by the chapter? It was certainly the wrong thing to do, but it is bothering me that a chapter with 98 years of history is shut down due to a handfull of actives. Why couldn't they have had a membership review? Punish the sisters who committed the infraction (early alumn status or expulsion), let the sisters who didn't have anything to do with it stay active, and let the pledges go on to become actives.

To be honest, I had the same questions last year with Sigma Sigma Sigma's decision to close their Missouri State chapter and Alpha Kappa Lambda's decision to suspend their Truman State chapter for 2 years.

Again, I am not trying to criticize, just question.

I've gotta tell you that it's not just the NPC groups that are being tough on drinking infractions. If you remember, 6 of the 8 sororities at Towson were put on probation for one or two members in each group drinking on bid day. The vast majority of the members in these chapters were completely innocent, but Towson imposed major probation restrictions like no social activities of any sort for nearly a year. No hazing was involved and each guilty member was sanctioned individually as well. I'm not saying that all of this isn't overboard, but it appears to be the current climate.

[ForeverRoses]

I sorry that the chapter closed.

I am curious, what happens to the pledges/new members. They obiviously wanted to be in a greek org, which is now gone for 2 years. They have yet been initiated, so they aren't unaffiliated collegate members (I think that's the term Tri Delt used), so are they just SOL? Can they re-rush another group, or are they bound by the 1 year rule? I feel worse for them than the actives. At least the actives can still become active alumna members.

[EtaEpsilove]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

I sorry that the chapter closed.

I am curious, what happens to the pledges/new members. They obiviously wanted to be in a greek org, which is now gone for 2 years. They have yet been initiated, so they aren't unaffiliated collegate members (I think that's the term Tri Delt used), so are they just SOL? Can they re-rush another group, or are they bound by the 1 year rule? I feel worse for them than the actives. At least the actives can still become active alumna members.

As an alum of Miami University, the recruitment rules would allow the pledges to go through recruitment again next winter (2010). I'm assuming they were still pledges and had not yet been initiated. I am pretty confident that if this happened prior to initiation, Miami would allow them to go through recruitment again next year.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by EtaEpsilove

As an alum of Miami University, the recruitment rules would allow the pledges to go through recruitment again next winter (2010). I'm assuming they were still pledges and had not yet been initiated. I am pretty confident that if this happened prior to initiation, Miami would allow them to go through recruitment again next year.

They were definitely still pledging and not initiated. The chapter is closed, so their pledge is broken. They can accept bids today if they are offered to them. That's an NPC rule and has nothing to do with what Miami would allow.

[EtaEpsilove]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

I sorry that the chapter closed.

I am curious, what happens to the pledges/new members. They obiviously wanted to be in a greek org, which is now gone for 2 years. They have yet been initiated, so they aren't unaffiliated collegate members (I think that's the term Tri Delt used), so are they just SOL? Can they re-rush another group, or are they bound by the 1 year rule? I feel worse for them than the actives. At least the actives can still become active alumna members.

Originally Posted by 33girl

They were definitely still pledging and not initiated. The chapter is closed, so their pledge is broken. They can accept bids today if they are offered to them. That's an NPC rule and has nothing to do with what Miami would allow.

I know for a fact, that if they were pledging Tri-Delt, they could NOT accept a bid today if it were offered. Because they accepted a bid (doesn't matter where), they have to wait a calendar year to go through the process again. It's the same thing as if I had pledged XYZ for two weeks, decided it wasn't for me and dropped out. The next day I could NOT accept a bid to ABC. I would have to wait a year until next recruitment before I could receive another bid. That's an NPC rule.

[ThetaDancer]

Originally Posted by EtaEpsilove

It's the same thing as if I had pledged XYZ for two weeks, decided it wasn't for me and dropped out.

No, it's really not the same thing at all, actually.

[EtaEpsilove]

Originally Posted by 33girl

They were definitely still pledging and not initiated. The chapter is closed, so their pledge is broken. They can accept bids today if they are offered to them. That's an NPC rule and has nothing to do with what Miami would allow.

For more information see the NPC website, but this came directly from there, "A woman who has had her pledge broken by an NPC fraternity, or who has broken her pledge to an NPC fraternity, may not be asked to join another NPC fraternity on that campus for one calendar year from the date she was originally pledged. However, she may be repledged by the same NPC fraternity chapter at any time within that calendar year. (6)"

They have to wait a year.

[AZ-AlphaXi]

actually. ..

from the Green book ...

III. The Panhellenic Compact
...
8) Women who have been pledged but not yet initiated into a chapter whose charter has been rescinded or relinquished or of a colony that has been dissolved shall be eligible to pledge another NPC fraternity immediately following the official release by the NPC fraternity

So, per this clause, they should be eligible to be pledged immediately .. .the problem, though, is that most of the NPC groups at Miami took quota and are over total so do not have any spots open to offer.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

If you remember, 6 of the 8 sororities at Towson were put on probation for one or two members in each group drinking on bid day. The vast majority of the members in these chapters were completely innocent, but Towson imposed major probation restrictions like no social activities of any sort for nearly a year. No hazing was involved and each guilty member was sanctioned individually as well. I'm not saying that all of this isn't overboard, but it appears to be the current climate.

Remembering that story, IMO it seems like Towson wanted to break the cycle of turning their heads to violations that had been going on for years and just did it all in one fell swoop. Like you get so annoyed with the mess on your desk that you just chuck it all instead of going through it carefully. I'm not saying the offenses weren't punishable, but from what you & other people said it just seemed like it was hands-off for years and then giant crackdown.

ForeverRoses - since the chapter has closed their pledge to DDD is broken and they can re-rush another sorority immediately. Whether they want to or how this would go over is another story.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Remembering that story, IMO it seems like Towson wanted to break the cycle of turning their heads to violations that had been going on for years and just did it all in one fell swoop. Like you get so annoyed with the mess on your desk that you just chuck it all instead of going through it carefully. I'm not saying the offenses weren't punishable, but from what you & other people said it just seemed like it was hands-off for years and then giant crackdown.

ForeverRoses - since the chapter has closed their pledge to DDD is broken and they can re-rush another sorority immediately. Whether they want to or how this would go over is another story.

I think that the reason the chapters were turned in to administration was for this reason, but I think that the administration was unaware that there were any problems in the Greek system before that event. There were definitely issues earlier, but they were swept under the rug before administration found out!

[DJMoneyInDaNati]

Very sad for a chapter with such a rich history to go down like this, but hazing can not be tolerated by any means, it's 2009, not 1809. Unfortunately for Sigma Nu just another negative at the Miami chapter over the past year.