oh DAYUM!!! Bush almost got clocked by a SHOE

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I find it repugnant that anyone would support such blatant disrespect of our president. It wasn't funny.

I actually agree here. In another thread a while back, I indicated that I was very liberal in what I consider humorous. In that thread, I said I didn't mind other countries writing political satire and drawing political cartoons that call our leadership out for the things they're doing poorly.

However, in this case, the president was personally assaulted. That's not just disrespectful.

What if one of the shoes had hit him just right and actually killed him? Would it be funny then?

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I actually agree here. In another thread a while back, I indicated that I was very liberal in what I consider humorous. In that thread, I said I didn't mind other countries writing political satire and drawing political cartoons that call our leadership out for the things they're doing poorly.

However, in this case, the president was personally assaulted. That's not just disrespectful.

What if one of the shoes had hit him just right and actually killed him? Would it be funny then?

Sorry.... we are the same country responsible for lynching Saddam Hussein who we still haven't had conclusive proof of WMDs or the WTC and used a lame ass excuse to invade Iraq.

If Bush got killed by a shoe.....I wouldn't have shed a tear.

Better yet, put that question to the displaced from Katrina.

Ask some of the families of soldiers lost over there for no good reason...

A shoe would have been fitting.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Sorry.... we are the same country responsible for lynching Saddam Hussein who we still haven't had conclusive proof of WMDs or the WTC and used a lame ass excuse to invade Iraq.

If Bush got killed by a shoe.....I wouldn't have shed a tear.

Better yet, put that question to the displaced from Katrina.

Ask some of the families of soldiers lost over there for no good reason...

A shoe would have been fitting.

I don't even know where to start with this. It's interesting to me how many extremist positions we have on this site (and yes, saying that an attempted assault on the President is acceptable is extremist). I understand dissent, I understand being upset with the Bush presidency (I'm not happy with it), I understand frustration. I don't understand where condoning assault on anyone, let alone a public official, makes any sense.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Sorry.... we are the same country responsible for lynching Saddam Hussein who we still haven't had conclusive proof of WMDs or the WTC and used a lame ass excuse to invade Iraq.

If Bush got killed by a shoe.....I wouldn't have shed a tear.

Better yet, put that question to the displaced from Katrina.

Ask some of the families of soldiers lost over there for no good reason...

A shoe would have been fitting.

In reality, it was congress that authorized the police actions in Afghanistan and Iraq. The President supported these decisions as did many people in the country. We'd need a lot more shoes to deal with the people who really caused the "war." Is that what you're suggesting?

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Sorry.... we are the same country responsible for lynching Saddam Hussein who we still haven't had conclusive proof of WMDs or the WTC and used a lame ass excuse to invade Iraq.

If Bush got killed by a shoe.....I wouldn't have shed a tear.

Better yet, put that question to the displaced from Katrina.

Ask some of the families of soldiers lost over there for no good reason...

A shoe would have been fitting.

Saddam Hussein DID THIS TO HIS OWN PEOPLE:
http://www.kdp.se/old/chemical.html
He massacred thousands of them because they were of a certain race (Kurdish) and you don't think that he deserved to be executed? Better yet you put him on the same level as George Bush? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Is that not enough proof for someone as ignorant as yourself? Do you need to see Saddam Hussein personally spraying serin gas into the face of a Kurd to believe it?

As for Katrina: It is NOT the government's responsibility to give people new homes. It sucks for those people but thats the way the world works, its not the government's fault that their home got destroyed and therefore its not their responsibility, those people should be grateful for all of the help that they did receive instead of bitching about not having everything given to them.

As for the families: A lot of those families don't think that their kids died for no good reason and probably wouldn't appreciate people like you saying that. A lot of progress is being made and a lot of people's lives have been changed for the better.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

Saddam Hussein DID THIS TO HIS OWN PEOPLE:
http://www.kdp.se/old/chemical.html
He massacred thousands of them because they were of a certain race (Kurdish) and you don't think that he deserved to be executed? Better yet you put him on the same level as George Bush? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Is that not enough proof for someone as ignorant as yourself? Do you need to see Saddam Hussein personally spraying serin gas into the face of a Kurd to believe it?

As for Katrina: It is NOT the government's responsibility to give people new homes. It sucks for those people but thats the way the world works, its not the government's fault that their home got destroyed and therefore its not their responsibility, those people should be grateful for all of the help that they did receive instead of bitching about not having everything given to them.

As for the families: A lot of those families don't think that their kids died for no good reason and probably wouldn't appreciate people like you saying that. A lot of progress is being made and a lot of people's lives have been changed for the better.

Dude...you need to calm that shyte down there.

That whole argument that you made there, we can have that same argument on the death penalty in the US.

Find someone that you think is deserving of death and let me see you and you personally pull the trigger or push the button.

Originally Posted by PhiGam

I believe that if we spread education throughout the region, people will be able to come to a more realistic view of the US role in the world. We're not doing ourselves any good trying to win the hearts and souls of people with a second grade education and who think that Osama bin Laden is a holy figure.

And if you read the artile that I just posted, there are those that have mixed reactions for what happened to Bush yesterday.

Besides, who the f**k are we to role into a country and try to 'force' them to have a better view of the US????

That is part of why we are where we are NOW.

Reminds me of an old statement, "The Sowrd in one hand and the Bible in the other."

And damn if they don't like what we are offering!

Come into my house pulling some shyte like that I would throw a shoe at you too!!

And yes, Bush has plenty of blood on his hands.

He and his administration have brought our country to an all time low internationally and having a shoe flung at him is just too dayum nutso to take a pass on.

You can agree or disagree on that one.

Whether you like it or not.

I. DO. NOT. FEEL. SORRY. FOR. BUSH.

Hate me for making the statement, you know I don't give a damn.

And you well best believe that there are more here as well as those not on here that have the same sentiment.

Some of you are mad just because a few of us are not ashamed to show our disregard at a joke of a President that we can't wait to see leave in just under 50 days.

PhiGam, if you don't like it, you can kiss my @ss.

[ufpika]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Sorry.... we are the same country responsible for lynching Saddam Hussein who we still haven't had conclusive proof of WMDs or the WTC and used a lame ass excuse to invade Iraq.

If Bush got killed by a shoe.....I wouldn't have shed a tear.

Better yet, put that question to the displaced from Katrina.

Ask some of the families of soldiers lost over there for no good reason...

A shoe would have been fitting.

Are you even serious? Saddam was executed in Iraq (12/30/06), and convicted by the Iraqi Special Tribunal for the murder of 148 Iraqi Shi'ites in the town of Dujail in 1982. We captured Saddam and turned him over to the people he terrorized, so that they could try him. At least two lawyers defending Saddam were murdered in cold bold by Iraqis. We also found mass graves in Iraq. I think you are way out of bounds. Second, you are un-American for wishing that your president was killed by a shoe. We are privileged enough to be able to say what we feel in the United States, but you have over stepped this right. Disliking a President and talking negatively about him is one thing, and you have done a complete other. Stop making yourself, your country, and your fraternity look like crap with your ridiculous comments.

Don't worry, the Savior known as Obama will be here soon to cure not only America's problems, but the entire world's. I can’t wait until 2012, when people realize that Obama is a politician. He is a politician that said what he had to, to get elected. There is no possible way he can deliver on everything he promised. Get ready for disappointment. His voting record does not back up the promises he has made. I wish Obama well, and wish that he can deliver on all of his promises but at the same time, I am a realist. You should never wish harm on our President, not matter how you believe he has performed. No matter what you think of Bush’s policy, he the leader of our country and you should think about that before making such ridiculous remarks.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by ufpika

Are you even serious? Saddam was executed in Iraq (12/30/06), and convicted by the Iraqi Special Tribunal for the murder of 148 Iraqi Shi'ites in the town of Dujail in 1982. We captured Saddam and turned him over to the people he terrorized, so that they could try him. At least two lawyers defending Saddam were murdered in cold bold by Iraqis. We also found mass graves in Iraq. I think you are way out of bounds. Second, you are un-American for wishing that your president was killed by a shoe. We are privileged enough to be able to say what we feel in the United States, but you have over stepped this right. Disliking a President and talking negatively about him is one thing, and you have done a complete other. Stop making yourself, your country, and your fraternity look like crap with your ridiculous comments.

Don't worry, the Savior known as Obama will be here soon to cure not only America's problems, but the entire world's. I can’t wait until 2012, when people realize that Obama is a politician. He is a politician that said what he had to, to get elected. There is no possible way he can deliver on everything he promised. Get ready for disappointment. His voting record does not back up the promises he has made. I wish Obama well, and wish that he can deliver on all of his promises but at the same time, I am a realist. You should never wish harm on our President, not matter how you believe he has performed. No matter what you think of Bush’s policy, he the leader of our country and you should think about that before making such ridiculous remarks.

Are you done with your tantrum?

Ask your sitting president if he violated the Geneva Convention as it relates to reprisals.

(Don't be surprised should he say 'No')

You have a wonderful day!

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

If Bush got killed by a shoe.....I wouldn't have shed a tear.
.

Damn!

[srmom]

I absolutely do not approve of that behavior, any world leader deserves respect, even if you don't like the person or their policies.

But, he was remarkably agile in his ducking. I don't think I could have gotten out of the way twice! I would totally have wrenched my back and he's older than me.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by srmom

I absolutely do not approve of that behavior, any world leader deserves respect, even if you don't like the person or their policies.

Obviously someone disagrees with you.

You know, there is a Matrix Parody coming out of this!!!!

[DaemonSeid]

and shoes has been going on for years....



Bush Doormat in Baghdad Hotel Dismantled
Created: 4/11/2003 10:34:52 AM Updated: 4/11/2003 10:37:02 AM

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- There was a bit of unfinished business left over in Baghdad from the 1991 Gulf War. The U.S. Army has taken care of it.

At the Al-Rashid Hotel, President Bush the elder - father of the current American chief executive who ordered this year's invasion of Iraq - is a doormat no more.

U.S. soldiers visited the battered Al-Rashid on Thursday night wielding hammers and chisels, and dug out the intricate tile mosaic of the former president that was used for years as a state-sponsored insult.

In its place, they laid a portrait of Saddam Hussein.

"Everybody walked over it and wiped their feet on it," Lt. Col. Rick Schwartz, the battalion commander said. He left the Saddam portrait behind, on the ground for future use.

Taking shoes to the face is not exactly a compliment in any culture, but in the Arab world it's a particular slam. Pointing the soles of one's feet at someone is a grave insult.

So the notion of thousands of Iraqi feet trudging over the patrician features of George Herbert Walker Bush was particularly appealing to Saddam's regime, humiliated by Bush during the 1991 Gulf War to free Kuwait from Iraqi invaders.

Saddam persoanlly picked the Al-Rashid for the insult to Bush senior. The hotel was heavily trafficked by foreign guests and the base of operations for journalists during the 1991 war - and the place where, on the night of the first American airstrike in January 1991, Arab guests huddled in the basement and shouted "Death to Bush."

The mosaic, an unflattering portrait of Bush with his teeth bared in a scowl, was installed later in 1991 right in the Al-Rashid's doorway complete with a caption in Arabic and English: "Bush is criminal."

The location made it almost impossible to avoid. And for years, it worked.


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/m...6&provider=top

Interesting that an image of Hussein replaced it.

Wonder if that will change too if and when we leave.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by srmom

...any world leader deserves respect...

No, they don't.

[RU OX Alum]

Yeah, he's in better shape than I would have thought.

Still though, throwing a shoe at someone is going a bit far.

[Senusret I]

What?

Dude, you don't throw a shoe at the goddamn President of the United States, period, ever, no matter who he is.