Treatment of Bush has been a disgrace - Page 2

christiangirl · #1 11-09-2008, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

I feel sorry for Bush and think he's probably a cool guy. Some of this is of his own doing, though.

Ditto. I think he is probably a perfectly lovely person. I just didn't (and don't) like the way he leads. It takes a certain person to be President in the state we're in and I just don't think he has it. Maybe if everything was easy peasy he might have been an okay leader. But he just...didn't make the wisest or most sensible decisions...to say the very VERY least.

And you can't really afford that when all eyes are on you. Unfair but it comes with the territory.

33girl · #2 11-09-2008, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl

Ditto. I think he is probably a perfectly lovely person. I just didn't (and don't) like the way he leads. It takes a certain person to be President in the state we're in and I just don't think he has it. Maybe if everything was easy peasy he might have been an okay leader. But he just...didn't make the wisest or most sensible decisions...to say the very VERY least.

And you can't really afford that when all eyes are on you. Unfair but it comes with the territory.

I don't think W wanted to be President any more than John F Kennedy did. If JFK had lasted for 2 terms, God knows how he'd be remembered by history now. IMO they were both pushed into it. I believe W came out at some point and said his lifelong goal was to be baseball commissioner, not POTUS.

Helicopter Parents: Not A New Thing.

UGAalum94 · #3 11-09-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

I don't think W wanted to be President any more than John F Kennedy did. If JFK had lasted for 2 terms, God knows how he'd be remembered by history now. IMO they were both pushed into it. I believe W came out at some point and said his lifelong goal was to be baseball commissioner, not POTUS.

Helicopter Parents: Not A New Thing.

Maybe we should have a Joe Kennedy thread.

ETA: can you imagine a Joe Kennedy recruitment thread, kind of like the one from Chuch Norris?

KSigkid · #4 11-10-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

I don't think W wanted to be President any more than John F Kennedy did. If JFK had lasted for 2 terms, God knows how he'd be remembered by history now. IMO they were both pushed into it. I believe W came out at some point and said his lifelong goal was to be baseball commissioner, not POTUS.

Helicopter Parents: Not A New Thing.

Haha...people don't want to hear my opinion on JFK...

honeychile · #5 11-09-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by puglover

In my opinion, a lot of people are influenced by what the Media feeds them which is not always the honest truth and as a result peoples perceptions become clouded.
So I believe that President Bush's approval rating is mostly a direct result of the media ability to change perceptions instead of his true leadership ability.

Absolutely - it's called "the power of the Press" for a reason!

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Originally Posted by KSigkid

8 years in office will do a lot - it's crazy to look at the before and after pictures of Presidents.

Granted, his family seemed not to age well but this is what FOUR years of the Presidency did to Jimmy Carter:

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I think Bush's presidency will be much better regarded by history than it is today.

I agree - but it's going to take some years. Unfortunately.

RedVelvet · #6 11-09-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DGTess

"For now, we have a new president-elect. In the spirit of reaching across the aisle, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican president." --Ann Coulter

The most dispicable treatment Mr. Bush received was from the Republican candidate for president at the end of this campaign. He showed Mr. Bush no loyalty and vigorously tried to distance himself from him. Ms. Coulter should just be quiet.

Scandia · #7 11-09-2008, 08:54 AM

I do not regret voting for Bush either time.

What has happened during his administration is enough to get anyone else traumatized.

He did his best. I truly do not think he is the worst president ever- and not just because he has not had a single sexual scandal. He is not corrupted- nor do I think there has been much corruption during his years. We do need to pull out of Iraq, but can he really be blamed for a bank tricking new homeowners into getting a mortgage for a house they could not afford?

kstar · #8 11-09-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

He is not corrupted- nor do I think there has been much corruption during his years.

Enron, rolling blackouts? Haliburton, government contracts in Iraq?

Okay.

PhiGam · #9 11-09-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kstar

Enron, rolling blackouts? Haliburton, government contracts in Iraq?

Okay.

Tell me what Bush did that was corrupt regarding ANY of these. Enron was a private company, its not surprising that Bush and Lay were in the same social circle in Texas but he certainly didn't let Lay off easy. Halliburton is the only company capable of doing the work we need in Iraq and they gave the government a good price.
The bottom line is that Bush hasn't done anything terrible, the country was doing fine until September 11th. I think that he is getting the heat for everything that happened during his presidency, even though those things are a result of US policies dating back 30+ years.

Munchkin03 · #10 11-09-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kstar

Enron, rolling blackouts? Haliburton, government contracts in Iraq?

Okay.

The rolling blackouts (in California, at least) started in December of 2000. How is that the fault of Bush's corruption as President?

As far as Enron, they were doing what they were doing well into the late 90s. Does the governor of a state hold that much control over the corporations in his state?

There are plenty of reasons to be unhappy with Bush's performance now that it's almost over, but find some better reasons and we can talk then.

This reminds me of a few weeks or so after a bad breakup, and all you can think of is how bad your ex is. A few months later, you've moved on and can see the positive parts of it. I think this is one of those cases.

UGAalum94 · #11 11-09-2008, 05:42 PM

Munchkin03, don't you think your signature seems a little dated now? It's cool if you want to preserve that for posterity, but I wondered if you forgot about it.

Munchkin03 · #12 11-09-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Munchkin03, don't you think your signature seems a little dated now? It's cool if you want to preserve that for posterity, but I wondered if you forgot about it.

No, I didn't forget about it, nor did I save it for prosperity. I'm still riding the happiness of the Obama-win wave.

Plus, internet siggies are kind of a low priority.

Scandia · #13 11-09-2008, 12:23 PM

Enron was a private business that had nothing to do with George W. Bush. I am talking about things that would directly involve him or the government.

kstar · #14 11-09-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

Enron was a private business that had nothing to do with George W. Bush. I am talking about things that would directly involve him or the government.

Okay... deregulation, looking the other way during the blackouts? You really don't know about the connection?

The heavy contributions to the campaign?

Read this book: Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room, then you'll get it.

KSUViolet06 · #15 11-09-2008, 07:30 PM

I'm not a Bush fan myself, but I honestly think that his presidency will be looked upon alot differently later on in history than it is right now. It's still too early to tell. His 2nd term isn't even officially over yet.