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Old 11-13-2015, 09:24 PM
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Delta Phi Epsilon HQ put out this statement:


Sigma Delta Tau has said that they opposed supporting the bills at the annual NPC meeting last month, Delta Gamma HQ says they do not sponsor any current legislation regarding sexual assault on college campuses and Alpha Gamma Delta has also voiced their disapproval of both bills.

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Old 11-13-2015, 09:44 PM
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For what it's worth, I do not support this legislation both as a survivor of sexual assault and as a member of the student judiciary that participates in administrative hearings where students can potentially be removed from campus. I believe that requiring survivors to go to the police in order to seek separation from their attacker on-campus is counterproductive, especially when the police on campus hold beliefs like this.

I can agree that some schools may need an overhaul in how they hear alleged cases of sexual assault, but forcing survivors to the police first to protect their safety on campus is not the way to do it.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:32 PM
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National Panhellenic Conference has withdrawn their support
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:49 AM
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National Panhellenic Conference has withdrawn their support
Here is the statement:

https://www.npcwomen.org/resources/a...e%20Agenda.pdf
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Old 11-14-2015, 02:15 AM
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The NIC has also withdrawn support.

I am curious as to which fraternities and sororities put out statements against the Safe Campus Act before the umbrella organizations withdrew support, or those who have not yet formally announced their individual organization's support of or opposition to the Safe Campus Act. Also, were there any statements going either way from NPHC and its constituent groups?

Just to recap who has been named on this thread:
  • Alpha Phi
  • Phi Mu
  • Alpha Chi Omega
  • Gamma Phi Beta
  • Delta Phi Epsilon
  • Sigma Delta Tau
  • Delta Gamma
  • Alpha GAmma Delta

I'm surprised not to have heard (through social media or from NPC friends) about some of the largest groups like KKG, KAT, DDD, XO, DZ, and ZTA. They might have put out statements, but I just hadn't heard about it.
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Old 11-14-2015, 09:29 AM
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For what it's worth, I do not support this legislation both as a survivor of sexual assault and as a member of the student judiciary that participates in administrative hearings where students can potentially be removed from campus. I believe that requiring survivors to go to the police in order to seek separation from their attacker on-campus is counterproductive, especially when the police on campus hold beliefs like this.

I can agree that some schools may need an overhaul in how they hear alleged cases of sexual assault, but forcing survivors to the police first to protect their safety on campus is not the way to do it.
You are an undergraduate who sits on a judicial panel for Title IX investigations?
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Old 11-14-2015, 03:41 PM
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GCers. I am not to amazed at what I am seeing! While a discussion about LXA leaving NIC because of their beliefs, it seems that some changes are coming about by others as well.

It is some what heartening to see that we/some feel an injustice with what is trying to be swept under the rug by some.

Many things are going on around campuses all across the country and we as Greeks should set an example. Basically keeping common sense in the mirror!
When it comes to something like rape, this is a legal matter to be handled by the police. If and only if a crime is found to be committed they the findings can be turned over to the school for the decision of the status of the student involved. A situation like rape is not up to the school to make a judgement, that is for the courts of law of which they are not.

It may sound egotistical, but, we are mostly the elite on campus because of all that we as Greeks do!

I applaud Alpha Phi for their stand in this and Delta Phi Epsilon!
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Old 11-14-2015, 04:48 PM
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GCers. I am not to amazed at what I am seeing! While a discussion about LXA leaving NIC because of their beliefs, it seems that some changes are coming about by others as well.

It is some what heartening to see that we/some feel an injustice with what is trying to be swept under the rug by some.

Many things are going on around campuses all across the country and we as Greeks should set an example. Basically keeping common sense in the mirror!
When it comes to something like rape, this is a legal matter to be handled by the police. If and only if a crime is found to be committed they the findings can be turned over to the school for the decision of the status of the student involved. A situation like rape is not up to the school to make a judgement, that is for the courts of law of which they are not.

It may sound egotistical, but, we are mostly the elite on campus because of all that we as Greeks do!

I applaud Alpha Phi for their stand in this and Delta Phi Epsilon!
You do realize that Alpha Phi, Delta Phi and now NPC pulled out because they do not support requiring schools to involve law enforcement when sexual misconduct is alleged?

(apparently you don't)
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Old 11-14-2015, 07:57 PM
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You are an undergraduate who sits on a judicial panel for Title IX investigations?
I could be asked to be a member of a hearing board for Title IX investigations, I have not specifically heard one yet.
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Old 11-15-2015, 05:22 AM
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Alpha Delta Pi is also against the bills as of Saturday.
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Old 11-15-2015, 09:47 AM
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I could be asked to be a member of a hearing board for Title IX investigations, I have not specifically heard one yet.
Nothing against you personally, but wow. One of my chief complaints is that college administrators have no qualifications or experience investigating sexual assaults and some universities are allowing undergrads to do it? Do you have experience in law enforcement?
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:01 PM
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Alpha Delta Pi is also against the bills as of Saturday.
NPC withdrew support on Friday 11-13-15. Just saw an official statement from Alpha Omicron Pi come across my news feed a few minutes ago.

Of note: Senator Claire McGaskill, Missouri (D) (Kappa Alpha Theta alumna), and Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, New York (D) (Kappa Kappa Gamma alumna), both came out against the bill on Thursday, October 29th, 2015. This was not action taken as representatives of their respective fraternities. Their memberships were referenced. There was media coverage.
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Old 11-15-2015, 12:52 PM
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AOII's statement:

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November 14, 2015

Dear Sisters,

Over the past several months, Alpha Omicron Pi has engaged in discussions with our members and National Panhellenic Conference partners surrounding proposed legislation relating to sexual assault and sexual violence on college campuses. It is our commitment to stand firmly against all forms of sexual assault and sexual violence, and support all efforts to eliminate these crimes from our campuses and Fraternity/Sorority communities. The well-being and safety of our members will always be our priority as we fully support survivors in their efforts to both heal and to seek justice.

AOII has listened to our members and partners, AOII leaders have met face to face with legislators in the House and Senate, and we have concluded that Alpha Omicron Pi will not support the Safe Campus Act. Full collaboration continues in Washington to find common ground solutions to make our campuses safer and we are encouraged by those efforts. In the coming months, we will work alongside our NPC and NIC interfraternal friends, campus partners and members of Congress in an effort to find agreement in order to move forward in support of legislation that includes:

· Ensuring and promoting a survivor-centered response: Devote appropriate resources for the care, support and guidance of students affected by sexual violence.

· Training and education programming: Mandatory educational programs that encourage bystander intervention and that raise awareness regarding sexual violence.

· Due process rights for student organizations: Rules to prevent institutions from punishing student organizations or their members in cases of sexual violence without conducting a disciplinary hearing.

· Preservation of fraternities and sororities as single-sex organizations: Protection of the single-sex exemption fraternities and sororities are provided under Title IX by preventing publicly funded colleges and universities from making fraternities and sororities co-ed.

There are many more conversations to be held in the days ahead. The Executive Board will continue to evaluate legislation and keep members informed on important developments. We appreciate the voices of those members who have reached out with questions and vow to continue listening to your concerns surrounding the important topic of sexual violence.

Fraternally,

The 2015-2017 AOII Executive Board
It can also be viewed on AOII's website.
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Old 11-15-2015, 01:33 PM
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Nothing against you personally, but wow. One of my chief complaints is that college administrators have no qualifications or experience investigating sexual assaults and some universities are allowing undergrads to do it? Do you have experience in law enforcement?
I do not investigate anything. I sit on a hearing board where any evidence may be presented to me.
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Old 11-15-2015, 01:36 PM
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Nothing against you personally, but wow. One of my chief complaints is that college administrators have no qualifications or experience investigating sexual assaults and some universities are allowing undergrads to do it? Do you have experience in law enforcement?
Typically, the investigation is done by campus police if they are a sworn law enforcement official or a trained investigator that is a staff member in the Title IX office, student affairs office or other. Then some hearing boards are comprised of students, faculty and staff. Others do not have students as participants. Appeals then head up to the VP student affairs or the President.

Some of the issue at hanf is that there is no standard practice.
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