Alabama Rush and First Cuts: Predetermined? - Page 18

Titchou · #1 08-20-2012, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by magnoliacurious

I looked over Titchou's graciously copied list, and I counted almost two-thirds of the girls being out-of-state!! Contrast that with 2002, the year before Dr. Robert Witt took over as UA President where less than a third of the much-smaller number of girls receiving bids were from outside Alabama. He really was the greek system's best friend at Bama!!

Thank you but it actually came from SWTXBelle. She just couldn't open it and so sent it to me to try. I just did her bidding!

Hartofsec · #2 08-19-2012, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

I look at a Bid List like that too. Location, location, location. IMHO, if you are a strong rushing chapter at, say, the University of Alabama, you will be strong in the big cities from that state. Don't get me wrong, there are wonderful girls pledged from Dallas and Chicago and Bucksnort, TN, but at the big state schools, you want to be strong in that state.

That is indeed the case at UofA (and probably many SEC campuses) -- even though the strong rushing chapters at UofA are also well-represented by OOS new members.

I'm really surprised at the OOS numbers and variety of states UofA has attracted -- hope this eventually improves the public (national) perception of Alabama (I can say that -- I live here

).

Beaumom · #3 08-19-2012, 06:03 PM

I agree mikew...I enjoyed having sisters from all over the country.

If you look closely it looks like there are a few from abroad and Canada!

Roll Tide!

FSUZeta · #4 08-19-2012, 06:45 PM

We always thought that the non-Florida girls were exotic-even if they were from Delaware or New Jersey!

mikewozowski · #5 08-19-2012, 10:45 PM

i saw a stat today that only 35ish% of the girls who received bids were in-state girls.

idk if that is accurate or not, but if so, i guess there should be no worries about PNMs being from OOS.

33girl · #6 08-20-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mikewozowski

i don't understand why you would say this, after all the "every chapter is a wonderful chapter" comments that are seen around here.

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Originally Posted by Beaumom

I agree mikew...I enjoyed having sisters from all over the country.

Y'all are new. You'll understand soon enough where these comments come from.

UGAalum94 · #7 08-20-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

Y'all are new. You'll understand soon enough where these comments come from.

What are you thinking here? Are you going by which posters make the comments or that everyone eventually gets a greekchat tutorial in SEC elitist thinking?

It's true that chapters that focus on in-state girls from certain city miss out on great out of state girls, but it's also true that sometimes people decide that some of what makes them socially elite is only associating with their own group of folks. I think this is more prevalent with fraternity pledge classes than with sororities since you always make sure you get quota in sorority recruitment.

I don't think this is the way to go personally, but I would love to know if there's a correlation between return rates and percentage of out of state girls. I think there probably is on some campuses.

To be honest, since Bama is over 50% out of state these days, I think, I'd expect that all of the groups are opening up to out of state girls.

magnoliacurious · #8 08-20-2012, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

What are you thinking here? Are you going by which posters make the comments or that everyone eventually gets a greekchat tutorial in SEC elitist thinking?

It's true that chapters that focus on in-state girls from certain city miss out on great out of state girls, but it's also true that sometimes people decide that some of what makes them socially elite is only associating with their own group of folks. I think this is more prevalent with fraternity pledge classes than with sororities since you always make sure you get quota in sorority recruitment.

I don't think this is the way to go personally, but I would love to know if there's a correlation between return rates and percentage of out of state girls. I think there probably is on some campuses.

To be honest, since Bama is over 50% out of state these days, I think, I'd expect that all of the groups are opening up to out of state girls.

As a matter of fact, according to my count from the bid list, only one Bama' sorority had more PNM's from Alabama than not!! And even the one was over forty percent out-of-state. I think they've been opening up to out-of-state young ladies pretty good lately!!

33girl · #9 08-21-2012, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

What are you thinking here? Are you going by which posters make the comments or that everyone eventually gets a greekchat tutorial in SEC elitist thinking?

The former.

As for certain groups taking a lot of people from certain areas, I honestly think to a degree, that happens at all kinds of schools. It may just be a little more obvious at places where the bid list complete with hometowns is printed and there are 1000+ people on it.

Re what Zillini was saying: is part of that because there's a huge $$ jump from public institutions (like UGA) to private institutions in the same state, so much so that staying in state really isn't feasible? I mean, my cousin actually chose her private school because after scholarships it was cheaper than Penn State. She didn't even think of going to, say Ohio State.

frogbait · #10 08-20-2012, 12:17 AM

I had one of those out of state girls! After ALL the worry, sleepless nights, stomach pains...(these were all my issues, D was fine), she is now my sister!

After the first round of parties she was so excited! She called before the first cut and said she would be happy if she got 4-6 invites. We had to wait unitl 4pm the next day to learn that she had 12 invitations (the max)!

Then came rain, hail, winds...more delays! Round three she maxed out again with 8 invites. She loved all of the skits and had fun staying so busy (she's a bit hyper).

Friday morning seemed to take forever to come but when it did she was thrilled to pref her top 3 houses. She wasn't supposed to text or talk but she snapped a pic of her list and texted me. This made my 9 hour drive so much more relaxed! After pref she stated that she would be completly happy with any of her top 3 choices, but had fallen in love with her legacy house!!

ANYONE who is considering Bama for recruitment, please don't feel threatened by this very intense process! Hell week for the moms but a wonderful week for the girls!

Beaumom · #11 08-20-2012, 01:30 PM

I'm newish! But my D is a senior at Bama. And with the changing enrollment at UA I think some of the "top tier" houses realized they missed some great oos girls in the past.

This year Alabama has 240 National Merit Scholars and I would assume that Presidential numbers are up to. The Honors department at UA does a wonderful recruiting many OOS students. Many who are choosing to go greek.

So if the houses who only want girls from certain cities over look these talented young ladies that is their choice. It is only making the other houses stronger.

By the way my D is very very happy with both her greek and UA experience.

And now she is off to a even more selective academic process of getting into medical school!

magnoliacurious · #12 08-20-2012, 05:17 PM

For those who may be interested, the official University bid list has been up for a few hours!

Hartofsec · #13 08-20-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by magnoliacurious

For those who may be interested, the official University bid list has been up for a few hours!

Thanks!

Here is the link:

http://uanews.ua.edu/2012/08/ua-soro...-announced-13/

Congrats to all the girls and all the chapters!

As an aside -- for those interested in the outcome of jll's daughter's recruitment -- she continued to have a full compliment of parties to attend, evaluated and prioritized her options, and finished recruitment pledging her top pref choice. She is a delighted new member of great chapter. Thanks to her mom for letting some of us know... a happy ending!

magnoliacurious · #14 08-20-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartofsec

Thanks!

Here is the link:

http://uanews.ua.edu/2012/08/ua-soro...-announced-13/

Congrats to all the girls and all the chapters!

As an aside -- for those interested in the outcome of jll's daughter's recruitment -- she continued to have a full compliment of parties to attend, evaluated and prioritized her options, and finished recruitment pledging her top pref choice. She is a delighted new member of great chapter. Thanks to her mom for letting some of us know... a happy ending!

Sure thing, sorry I didn't think to post the link!!

Hartofsec · #15 08-20-2012, 09:23 PM

Something I’ve noticed for years, and again on this year’s bid list, is how few girls from Mississippi appear on the lists. I know a number of Greek girls from here (Alabama) who attend Ole Miss and Mississippi State (and we are also a less populous state), but have wondered why UofA doesn’t seem to attract more students from Mississippi.

Anyone from Mississippi who has some insight?