Alleged Rape of NCCU Student: (Duke Scandal)

[Gods Ivy]

Originally posted by mccoyred
Okay, so WHO was the second pickup that did make what sounds like incriminating statements???

Right this still all seems weird but again like something happend.

[PerfectVerse06]

DURHAM, N.C. Apr 21, 2006 (AP)— At first, a stripper who performed at a Duke University lacrosse team party doubted the story of a colleague who told police she was dragged into a bathroom and raped. Now, Kim Roberts isn't so sure.

"I was not in the bathroom when it happened, so I can't say a rape occurred and I never will," Roberts told The Associated Press on Thursday in her first on-the-record interview. But after watching defense attorneys release photos of the accuser, and upset by the leaking of both dancers' criminal pasts, she said she has to "wonder about their character."

"In all honesty, I think they're guilty," she said. "And I can't say which ones are guilty … but somebody did something besides underage drinking. That's my honest-to-God impression."

Attorneys for the 46 players have aggressively proclaimed the players' innocence, citing DNA tests during a public campaign that has included describing and releasing photos from the party.

Those photos, the defense maintains, show the accuser was both injured and impaired when she arrived, and also support the claim that one of the two players who has been indicted would not have had enough time to participate in any assault before he left the party. The district attorney has said he also hopes to charge a third suspect in the case.

The attorneys claim Roberts at first told a member of the defense team that she did not believe the accuser's allegations. They say she has changed her story to gain favorable treatment in a criminal case against her. They note she also e-mailed a New York public relations firm, asking in her letter for advice on "how to spin this to my advantage."

"We believe … her story has been motivated by her own self-interest," said attorney Bill Thomas, who represents one of the uncharged players. "I think that a jury will ultimately have to decide the question of her credibility."

Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 eight days after the party on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP

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[Gods Ivy]

"We believe … her story has been motivated by her own self-interest," said attorney Bill Thomas, who represents one of the uncharged players. "I think that a jury will ultimately have to decide the question of her credibility."

Roberts, 31, was arrested on March 22 eight days after the party on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000 from a photofinishing company in Durham where she was a payroll specialist, according to documents obtained by the AP

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Wow

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by Marie
I believe that one of the articles posted (Try the article that HoneyKiss posted yesterday) said that the team had several other incidents on their record. Here is a quote "Duke's athletics director, Joe Alleva, had warned Pressler to get his team "in line" following a high-level review of disciplinary records last year, The (Durham) Herald-Sun quoted Alleva as saying Monday." I'm guessing that whether or not these young men are guilty, this was the straw that broke the camel's back, and the athletic department asked for the coach's resignation.

A big part of that may have been the public relations aspect; if the team had been under fire previously, and then this issue came up, the administration may have just wanted to make the move now. I'm not sure that it goes to guilt or innocence.

[SKEEphistAKAte]

^^ I agree. I don't think that the coach's firing goes to the guilt or innocence of the players. I think it just speaks to the fact that off the field he sucks as a coach because he can't keep his team under control. It sounds like the team had problems before, administration told the coach to get his team under control, he didn't and now that this issue has come up, so administration told him to kick rocks.

[teena]

Full story
Kim Roberts, the second dancer involved in the Duke University Men's Lacrosse team rape scandal, is taking steps to reverse the negative effects of the alleged incident.

Roberts, 31, recently sent an e-mail to 5W Public Relations to request their services.

The company has represented a variety of high profile rappers and celebrities, including its most recent client, rapper Lil' Kim.

"Although I am no celebrity and just an average citizen, I've found myself in the center of one of the biggest stories in the country," Roberts said in an email to 5W Public Relations. "I'm worried about letting this opportunity pass me by without making the best of it and was wondering if you had any advice as to how to spin this to my advantage. I am determined not to let any negative publicity about my life overtake me. I'm so confused as to who to talk to for relevant advice and I hope that you can return my e-mail. If you cannot help, do you know of any names and numbers I can call?"

[Gods Ivy]

Originally posted by teena
Full story
Kim Roberts, the second dancer involved in the Duke University Men's Lacrosse team rape scandal, is taking steps to reverse the negative effects of the alleged incident.

Roberts, 31, recently sent an e-mail to 5W Public Relations to request their services.

The company has represented a variety of high profile rappers and celebrities, including its most recent client, rapper Lil' Kim.

"Although I am no celebrity and just an average citizen, I've found myself in the center of one of the biggest stories in the country," Roberts said in an email to 5W Public Relations. "I'm worried about letting this opportunity pass me by without making the best of it and was wondering if you had any advice as to how to spin this to my advantage. I am determined not to let any negative publicity about my life overtake me. I'm so confused as to who to talk to for relevant advice and I hope that you can return my e-mail. If you cannot help, do you know of any names and numbers I can call?"

Wow, is that her picture? She looks like lil Kim if that is not lil Kim. I am surprised that a gag order had not been issued. All of these objectives and different views of the case are being reviewed by a possible jury on the case, which may sway a decision forcing neither party to get a fair trail.

[teena]

Originally posted by Gods Ivy
Wow, is that he picture? She looks like lil Kim if that is not lil Kim. I am surprised that a gag order had not been issued. All of these objectives and different views of the case are being reviewed by a possible jury on the case, which may sway a decision forcing neither party to get a fair trail.

Naw. Thats Lil Kim.

[Gods Ivy]

Originally posted by teena
Naw. Thats Lil Kim.

Oh ok. I was about to say dang. Thanks for the clear up. lol

[teena]

CNN article

[Gods Ivy]

Originally posted by teena
CNN article

My God. Death threats to her family.

[SKEEphistAKAte]

Originally posted by teena
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"I'm worried about letting this opportunity pass me by without making the best of it and was wondering if you had any advice as to how to spin this to my advantage.

There goes any credibility she may have had as a witness in this case. People are so incredibly stoooooopid.

[Marie]

Originally posted by KSigkid
A big part of that may have been the public relations aspect; if the team had been under fire previously, and then this issue came up, the administration may have just wanted to make the move now. I'm not sure that it goes to guilt or innocence.

Yeah, that's my point. I don't think that it speaks to guilt or innocence at all, I just think that this was the incident is entirely too public (esp. given their track record) for the university to not act.

[Gods Ivy]

Originally posted by Marie
Yeah, that's my point. I don't think that it speaks to guilt or innocence at all, I just think that this was the incident is entirely too public (esp. given their track record) for the university to not act.

I agree that a gag order should have been placed on all parties involved so that when this does go to trial there will be a fair trial but nowadays what trial is fair?

[litAKAtor]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
OK...I have to ask this...

Would you care if it was a white girl who was raped by "40 White Duke Lacrosse players"???

If your answer is Yes - you would care - then why is this a race issue??????? I can't say for sure, but they probably would have raped whoever they hired - black, white, yellow or pink. It just happened to be a black girl in this case.

The issue is a GIRL was raped by several Lacrosse players and no one is stepping forward. Do you honestly believe that if the girl that was raped was white that magically someone would offer info or step forward???

Oh, and if you answered "No" to the original question, then I just have no more words for you.

I don't know if this has been addressed, but let me spit some knowledge for a brief minute -the issue is not whether one would be concerned if it was a white girls who got raped - the issue is the fact that this AA woman's credibility is being questioned and people thinking twice about her allegations, primarily (whether conciously or subconciously) because of her race. As an aside - if these were some AA football players who had allegedly raped a white stripper - TRUST there would have been NO hesitation in arresting all of their black behinds . . quick fast and in a hurry . . .they would have been assumed guilty FIRST and then had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt their INNOCENCE!!!