The Murder of Trayvon Martin

[SOM]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Well now it's too much of a circus for me to care anymore. His 2005 Myspace page? That warrants multiple stories, some by actual newspapers?

I'll be interested in the post mortem of his trial. His 7 year old Myspace page, however, is not something I care too much about.

Kevin: This may have some impact on case-not only in court of public opinion but in court of law.
While this article may be far from perfect, it does bring out the point rather well. At the very least, it would make one give the idea some thought
Newly-Uncovered George Zimmerman MySpace Page Disparages Mexicans And His ‘Ex-Hoe’
http://www.mediaite.com/online/newly...nd-his-ex-hoe/

TPMMuckraker

Unearthed: George Zimmerman’s MySpace Page
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...in.php?ref=fpa

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SOM

Kevin: This may have some impact on case-not only in court of public opinion but in court of law.

I doubt it will have any impact on the case in a court of law. How is it relevant to the charge of second degree murder and how does any relevance outweigh its potential unfair prejudice? What does what he said about Mexicans 7 years ago have to do with whether he committed second degree murder when he killed an African-American youth two months ago? Especially given that he identifies as Hispanic? Despite what the article says (yes, I read it), I think it's unlikely that this information will matter in court.

Here's an idea: Instead of posting nothing but links to random articles, why don't you give us your thoughts on why all of these articles are worth reading or have anything to add to the conversation.

[SOM]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I doubt it will have any impact on the case in a court of law. How is it relevant to the charge of second degree murder and how does any relevance outweigh its potential unfair prejudice? What does what he said about Mexicans 7 years ago have to do with whether he committed second degree murder when he killed an African-American youth two months ago? Especially given that he identifies as Hispanic? Despite what the article says (yes, I read it), I think it's unlikely that this information will matter in court.

Here's an idea: Instead of posting nothing but links to random articles, why don't you give us your thoughts on why all of these articles are worth reading or have anything to add to the conversation.

Well besides just reading the articles MysticCat, I also spoke to several friends and associates who are in the legal field. They thought that it could have an impact in court as well.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SOM

Well besides just reading the articles MysticCat, I also spoke to several friends and associates who are in the legal field. They thought that it could have an impact in court as well.

Well, maybe things are different in Florida -- always a possibility -- but I have some trouble imagining that a judge would let this in.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by SOM

Well besides just reading the articles MysticCat, I also spoke to several friends and associates who are in the legal field. They thought that it could have an impact in court as well.

MC is "in the legal field" as well ... also, when people say things like "are in the legal field" it usually means "they're not lawyers though." Are they? In Florida?

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by SOM

Kevin: This may have some impact on case-not only in court of public opinion but in court of law.

It will likely have no impact, unless the defense has literally no idea how to pick a jury.

While this article may be far from perfect, it does bring out the point rather well.

The point that there's a Myspace page? You and I have far different expectations out of articles.

At the very least, it would make one give the idea some thought

Giving ideas thought is always a good plan.

On a less snarky note, WHAT idea?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by SOM

Kevin: This may have some impact on case-not only in court of public opinion but in court of law.

All I have to add to the previous comments is this: LOL.

Please just drop this. We don't need a Zimmerman news aggregation service here on GC. I am not at all concerned about what Zimmerman may or may not have said 7 years ago. For a variety of reasons, e.g., relevance and difficulty of authentication, this will never make it to the jury.

I frankly doubt this case ever even goes to a jury at this point.

[SOM]

Originally Posted by Kevin

All I have to add to the previous comments is this: LOL.

Please just drop this. We don't need a Zimmerman news aggregation service here on GC. I am not at all concerned about what Zimmerman may or may not have said 7 years ago. For a variety of reasons, e.g., relevance and difficulty of authentication, this will never make it to the jury.

I frankly doubt this case ever even goes to a jury at this point.

LOL back at you Kevin-As far as I know-no one is forcing you to read this thread. A thread with almost 9,000 views. And a thread that someone else started.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by SOM

And I should add that I place more faith in people that I know as family, friends, Brothers or business associates than unknown people in a social media setting.

Originally Posted by SOM

LOL back at you Kevin-As far as I know-no one is forcing you to read this thread. A thread with almost 9,000 views. And a thread that someone else started.

CAN I GET A FLOUNCE?!


Plz...

[Kevin]

[agzg]

The four of you made this thread really boring.

And by "four of you" I mean SOM.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by agzg

The four of you made this thread really boring.

And by "four of you" I mean SOM.

A guy I know said this thread was COMPLETELY AWESOME - obviously I'll take his word over yours, because I know him.

I promise he's not me. Promise.

[Kevin]

A medical report obtained exclusively by ABC News found that Trayvon Martin's accused killer, George Zimmerman, was diagnosed with a broken nose, a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury the day after he fatally shot Martin.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...rld&id=8663404

That's pretty consistent with Zimmerman's account of things.

I guess this case is no longer as sexy for the media to cover it now that there's a reasonable chance that Martin was the one who initiated the physical violence.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Kevin

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...rld&id=8663404

That's pretty consistent with Zimmerman's account of things.

I guess this case is no longer as sexy for the media to cover it now that there's a reasonable chance that Martin was the one who initiated the physical violence.

The media is how you found out that info. The media has never been completely silent because I see at least one article per week on this. There has simply been less to say in a larger sense once people get bored with Nancy Grace and the court of public opinion. The obvious "we shall wait and see" is what is going on.

There is still a reasonable chance that Zimmerman initiated the violence when he followed Martin and perhaps ran up on Martin which caused Martin to respond (or Martin to stop when he discovered he was being followed and say to Zimmerman "what the hell are you following me for"). Martin perhaps thought he was defending himself just as Zimmerman is claiming that he was defending himself with a gun-to-a-fist-fight. The Gun Gods are mighty generous if they just so happened to allow Zimmerman to have his gun to defend himself for an unsolicitated and nonprecipitated fist fight.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

The media is how you found out that info. The media has never been completely silent because I see at least one article per week on this. There has simply been less to say in a larger sense once people get bored with Nancy Grace and the court of public opinion. The obvious "we shall wait and see" is what is going on.

There never was all that much to say. Hell.. when we were on media blitz mode when this thing started, or rather when the national media picked it up, there was a lot less to say than there is right now.

There is still a reasonable chance that Zimmerman initiated the violence when he followed Martin and perhaps ran up on Martin which caused Martin to respond (or Martin to stop when he discovered he was being followed and say to Zimmerman "what the hell are you following me for"). Martin perhaps thought he was defending himself just as Zimmerman is claiming that he was defending himself with a gun-to-a-fist-fight. The Gun Gods are mighty generous if they just so happened to allow Zimmerman to have his gun to defend himself for an unsolicitated and nonprecipitated fist fight.

It's a really good thing we don't convict people in this country based on there being a reasonable chance they're guilty.